Zeeb reacted to vVv OrganicBear in I think its time to quit
To elaborate a bit on my post, I went so far as to change up my champion pool to mechanically much simpler champs (Darius helped me climb from Silver 4/5 to Silver 2, Garen from Silver 2/3 to Silver 1, and WW for that last stretch into gold).
When you play simple champions you notice how much of an impact every missed skillshot has. You notice what's going on around the map because you aren't focused on winning trades or mechanically outplaying anyone. You notice when you're behind in CS more and when/why you get behind. You notice when you're overextended without vision more and why you were ganked. You notice what the team is doing that allowed the enemy team to send five top and murder you. Etc.
Also you want to go out and look at all the tools out there available for you to learn what is good. You need to find winrates for champions in various roles in your ELO. Op.gg provides a very good overview of champion statistics for each ranked ELO and can be narrowed down by server. Champion.gg provides information on where people are typically taking a champion and how people are building them/what the highest winrate build is on a champion including runes and masteries. Probuilds.net shows you how pros have thought about building certain champions and the deviations they make in various situations (or if there is a solid core build that keeps repeating) and also gives info for runes/masteries. You can also follow the summonerschool subreddit to get info on various champions and how to play them. For example, I picked up WW jungle after someone linked a guide by a master player there and was easily able to pick up the champion and build him effectively based on the info in that guide. There are a lot of guide sites and even more guides, so finding one that is actually good can be difficult.
Once you learn which champions to avoid (i.e. 42% winrate on Taliyah means you have to be MUCH better than the average Taliyah player to get a positive winrate on her, vs 55% winrate on Amumu means that even if you are below average on him you can still maintain a positive win ratio and climb) and how to build your champs, you start looking at really basic shit like CS and warding. Do you buy a pink ward every game? Do you upgrade your trinket? If not is yellow trinket more valuable for some reason? I find in silver people still don't ward so having extra wards from yellow trinket is really good unless you're a squishy carry that will die if you facecheck. I play Ashe though so with hawkshot I keep yellow trinket anyway for additional ward coverage.
Even things like how you are using chat or how you respond to a difficult game can matter. I found as WW I could carry some pretty ratchet games and get my team a win even if playing from pretty far behind. If you surrender those games because you don't feel like trying then you probably won't climb, or it will take much longer. I have a rule that I never vote yes to a surrender vote because it instills in me that I always have to play as if there's a possibility that my team can win. This forces me to play at the absolute best of my abilities every game and question the things I did wrong in fights so that I can play better when my team is not 0-30.
One big thing is to focus on objectives. Practice never chasing the low health enemies if there is something to take (tower, baron, dragon, inhib, buff, enemy jungle camp, etc.). When you chase you tend to end up face checking the enemy team and lose the kill + feed more kills to the enemy. Even if you can only take gromp and wolf camps that's still guaranteed gold for you and gold/xp denied to the enemy team. Only chase if you can reasonably expect to catch the enemy before they get dangerously into their home field.
A big one people in Silver have trouble with is that they don't play safe when behind. They still try to build damage, when they would benefit more from just getting a tank item or an abyssal (ADC obviously doesn't have this option which is one reason it can be difficult to play from behind as an ADC, you just have to be more aware of which CS you are going for or play someone like Ashe who can duel the enemy carry from behind). Don't be afraid to rush an abyssal if you're mid or some armor/MR+health item if you are top/jungle. I find that the damage you do with a suboptimal build almost always exceeds the damage you do when you are dead in 0.3 seconds and the enemy laner is up 5 kills.
Also don't look for the one mistake that "cost the game". As Malcolm Gladwell pointed out in Outliers, one single mistake never results in a catastrophic failure. It's always the combination of multiple small failures that causes a catastrophic failure to occur. For example, a plane crash might be caused because a pilot has been flying nonstop for 14+ hours and is tired, there are poor weather conditions, and some of the electronics are malfunctioning. If any one of these things was not occurring then the plane wouldn't crash, but the combination of all three at once causes it to happen. Similarly, in your ranked games a lack of jungle pressure resulting in lost lanes resulting in lost objectives might have snowballed the game to the point where one player getting caught out cost the game. If any of those prior events hadn't occurred then either that player wouldn't have had the chance to get caught out, or getting caught wouldn't have had such dire consequences. It could be something as small as one ADC farming enough for BFsword while the other had to recall with just enough for pickaxe + boots that causes a game to snowball out of control.
Well this is all very generic advice, but if you want to feel free to post some replays in here and I can take a look for you and help you try and figure out what is holding you back. Looking at your op.gg I can see your CS was low in that Fizz game (120 when at 25 minutes having around 200 would be preferable). It also looks like your champion pool is quite broad for someone still in low ELO. I'd stick to 1-2 main champions. For example you have a combined score of 3-8 from trying to pick up Azir and Fizz recently. Your attempts to play Viktor have netted you a 5-13 record. Whereas if you stuck with your best champions Ezreal, Lissandra, and Graves you'd not only have avoided those losses but also would probably have benefited from your 60+% winrates on them. Eventually those winrates will go down as you hit your skill cap, but it's much easier to figure out your mistakes when you're at your cap vs when you are just trying to learn a new champion.
Zeeb reacted to HypErKiZ in [CSGO] HypErKiZ return application.
I decided to re apply because its been a long while sense iv been with a gaming community. I miss the feeling I had when I fist joined vVv gaming from the moment I saw them on TeamLiquid's page to when I first joined the vVv Gaming's chat channel on SC2. Now that vVv has ventured into a game where I have spent well over a thousand hours spread across a couple accounts ( one being over 1k ) I really want to be a part of a community I know and have been a part of before. I would want my 1st home in gaming to be my home again only this time for CSGO.
Zeeb reacted to HypErKiZ in [CSGO] HypErKiZ return application.
What would you like us to call you? Hyper, or Mike What is your level (Age)? 24 Where ya from? New York What games do you currently play? CSGO, D3, Hearthstone What games are you looking forward to playing? CSGO is the only game I really look forward to playing every time I get a day off. How did you hear about vVv Gaming? If it was by time travel device, please indicate the serial number. If by wizard, please indicate who. Ex member from back in 2011 Who do you currently know in vVv Gaming? How do you know them? Do you wish you didn't know them? not sure how many are still here that I remember, Jerith, Surgarbear, Dway, Shaft, Babytoss, Time, Rigid, Hasuu, RuFF, Glon, Daisuki, Rantech, Nazgul. I knew them through the SC2 division of vVv Gaming. I also know vVv Cheese who played in the Smash Division and even sent him a video card to help him with his PC. I would never wish to not know these people. Though at a time things were rocky, these guys were there to make me a better gamer and person. What are your hobbies and interests outside of gaming? Wait, what's "outside of gaming"? Working, hanging out with room mates, drinks, watching TV...the usual Do you have problems with toxicity or toxic behavior in game? If so, what have you done to reform this behavior? Would you like us to set you up with a "correctional administrator" (please submit $15 torture device maintenance fee)? It all depends on the situation whether or not the person(s) are being rude to myself, friends or someone who is being hurt by it. I will always have the back of the one being bullied. I myself am not a toxic player in video games, I at times get passionate about the game and will apologize for anything I do if taken offence but I will never go out of my way to hurt someone intentionally. When you play games, do you tend to grind games as much as possible, or do you often reflect on your mistakes and actively seek to improve upon them? I am always competitive so I try to improve and work on mistakes. Have you ever competed in or attended any online or LAN tournaments? National events? (PAX, LCS, IEM, etc.)? Stripper competitions? In starcraft 2 I competed in the NAASL ( North American Amature Star League ) and many Go4Sc2 tournaments. What type of organization are you looking to join? What would the ideal environment look like for you? Would it have complementary pudding cups? The ideal organization I am looking for is one that has active members who are always down to game and grow. A friendly family like community that I had the pleasure of experiencing years ago and would love to have this opportunity again. ( Also really hyped for vVv going into CSGO again. Really want to be a part of it. ) IQ Test Portion. Please complete the following sequences: E Pluribus Unum, shakeweight, candyland, Fleshlight 1, 3, 69, 69, 69, 69 Kevin Bacon, Vin Diesel, Charlize Theron, Lucille Ball....wait....Bacon!?!? WHERE!?!?!?! I, Fucked, Your, Cantaloupe
Also a side note, I also want to really apologize to sugarbear for how I acted back in the day. I am really sorry for being a immature prick. Glad to see how much you have done for vVv, you're a awesome guy.
Zeeb reacted to Muhdewsa in ADL Season 8 Details Thread
It's ADL time again! We're excited to announce that Season 8 starts February 19th and we will be playing every Sunday and Friday at 9pm EST (6pm PST). Once again, we've made some changes to this season but I think this will make everyone much happier! Let's just say that the theme of this season is SIMPLE!... literally. Things were just getting too complicated for everyone involved and it was sometimes hard to understand what was happening and why. Now everything will be easier for everyone! Jump past the Quick Info to get the summary of the changes!!
How the Amateur Draft League works (read if you're new!): Show up in TeamSpeak a little before 9pm EST on Sunday or Friday (about 10-15 minutes works). Once in TeamSpeak, right click your name, click "Change Description", enter your Summoner Name, Solo Q Rank, and the Top 3 positions that you would like to play (or a position you absolutely cannot play), then "OK". You will move into the channel that correlates with your current Solo Q rank under Skill Sorting Hat (if you're currently unranked, go based off of what you were last season). The highest ranked players that show up that night are deemed team captain for THAT NIGHT ONLY. Team Captains will begin drafting their team out of the remaining players (dodge-ball style picking, pick order is under rules). People who are picked will be automatically moved into their team's channel. Once teams are drafted, you will play a total of TWO GAMES. After a game, the winners of the match will move into the same channel as the opposing team for a feedback session. Each game is against a DIFFERENT TEAM. Once you're done with BOTH games and your feedback sessions, you're welcome to leave, start inhouses, find someone to Duo Q with, etc. You can attend any night you want; you're not required to follow any type of schedule. If you show up to play, you must play both of your games. All you have to do to play is show up, you don't have to sign up anywhere or do anything beforehand. You must be level 30 and have at least 16 champions (NA only). There is no minimum Solo Q rank requirement. Have questions? Hit up vVv Medusa or vVv Organicbear!
TeamSpeak Server: ts65.gameservers.com:9222 (NO PASSWORD)
Click Here to Learn How to set up TeamSpeak
Start Time: 9 PM EST/6 PM PST every Friday and Sunday
Changes based on your suggestions:
Scoring system moved from a complex ELO system to a simplified Win-Percentage-based system. One of the things you guys asked for was for us to simplify the scoring system. The ELO system was confusing and made it so it was difficult to understand what was happening with your scores since everything was calculated behind the scenes. As a result, this season we'll be moving back to a spreadsheet system and simplifying the scoring system to Win/Loss percentage. Your score will be displayed in a simple google docs spreadsheet so that you can look it up easily and see all the math involved in calculating your score. Adding an attendance-based bonus to remove the "hidden penalty" of showing up more often and having a lower win rate than someone who shows up a few times and has a win streak Additionally, you guys said that you didn't like that someone could come in at the end of the season and get a lucky 8-2 streak and end up placing higher than people who were showing up the majority of the season and doing relatively well. We agree that this is something that should be addressed, and although it's highly unlikely for someone to go on an 8-2 streak based on luck alone, we are adding a bonus multiplier to help those who show up to more games throughout the season. This will remove the unintended penalty for those showing up to more nights and trending toward a 50% winrate and prevent someone from showing up and doing well late in the season to sweep an easy victory, unless it's truly deserved. If you DO manage to go 8-2, you will still end the season with a relatively high win rate, but those who attend more nights and manage to perform at an above average level will still end up with a greater score. We will no longer be having a "Finals Night" to determine our winners; the winners of the ADL season will be determined by the end of the season Win/Loss Percentage after the attendance bonus is factored in. Since we no longer have ADL ELO, we will no longer have the Champion/Challenger Tiers. If we have 40+ people on a night, we will have the highest ranked players do a separate draft from the lower ranked players. This will make drafting go faster as well as help with the "my lane opponent is diamond while I'm in silver" problem. The 20 highest ranked players will be moved into Group A while the other 20 players will be in Group B then drafting will resume as normal. We will have 3 groups if we have 81-120 players. So the maximum a group will ever hold is 40 people. Always be sure to give vVv Organicbear or vVv Medusa any feedback you have! We can always make things better or easier, we just need to be informed that something needs changing! A link to our profiles containing our contact information are at the bottom of this post. Feel free to contact us at any time in any way that is most convenient for you (including chatting on TeamSpeak).
How to Participate:
Literally all you have to do is show up! Get into our TeamSpeak BEFORE 9pm EST (10-15 minutes), go into the channel Amateur Draft League, then wait for further instruction!
NOTE: Anyone can play, regardless of Solo Q rank, as long as you're Level 30 and have at least 16 champions to participate in Custom Tournament Draft.
Official ADL Rules:
Please take the time to read and familiarize yourself with the rules! You are expected to know the rules before you join TeamSpeak and participate!!!
Are you excited about the beginning of Season 8? Should we have made any other changes? Be sure to communicate with us!! If you have questions, concerns, comments, or suggestions, contact Organicbear or Medusa and we'll be more than happy to help you <3 (srsly, with anything at all... except math).
See you on February 19th at 9pm EST (6pm PST) for the Amateur Draft League!!
Zeeb reacted to Yui in IEM San Jose!
Who's excited for some more League of Legends action! IEM San Jose is this weekend and I am rather excited to see how some of the new rosters do. Here is the braket:
As a TSM fan I am super excited to see how this brand new roster does on the international stage. I know that they haven't been together for very long but their potential is huge and I'm hoping they live up to the hype. I am a little disappointed that they are playing on 5.21 (aka the last season patch) but I am still excited to see how the strategies will have changed from worlds.
Games start Saturday @11:40 am PST with 3 best of 3s on that day. I believe it goes TSM vs LGD as match 1, CLG vs UOL match 2, and then JinAir vs WM2 for match 3 (I can't really tell from the schedule on their website ). Sunday again starts @11:40 am PST again with the last BO3 match then a short brake with the finals @4:40 pm as a BO5 match.
Now I don't really know who is playing for UOL as they have like 3 openings on their roster right now but here are my predictions:
TSM 2-1 LGD
CLG 2-0 UOL
OG 2-1 TSM
JA 2-0 CLG
JA 3-1 OG
Zeeb reacted to Catsexual in Coming to an end
Considering how little I've actually played this game I've gone from Bronze II to Plat I and am about to make my last push to Diamond in my first season of this game. For someone who was RPG only I'll be curious if I can hit Master next season when i actually sit down and learn the finer details. Never had the goal to get Diamond but it was far easier than I thought especially as a Support main.
Zeeb reacted to Muhdewsa in Great Resources to Improve Your Game!
Hey guys! So, as I'm sure all of you are aware, I play a LOT of League of Legends and I'm very passionate about the competitive side of things. I'm an ADC/Support main but I'm more than happy to play anything besides top. I've always felt like my game knowledge has been better than my actual mechanics. I spend quite a bit of time watching the LCK (basically the Korean LCS), VoDs of tournaments, and educational videos/articles about LoL. I'm actually planning on starting my own blog series for in-depth analysis of certain aspects about League, the pro scene, picks, lane match ups, stuff like that. BUT UNTIL THEN, I have come across a few things that I would like to share with all you lovely people because I feel like these resources aren't very well known around these parts:
/r/SummonerSchool (link) - This is probably the BESTTTT thing I have ever come across. It contains so much information about everything you could ever want and there are a ton of people of all skills that are very helpful. This subreddit has a verification feature where people can link their League of Legends account to their Reddit Username and shows their rank as their flair, so you know that so-and-so is actually in Diamond rather than just going off of their word. It doesn't automatically update if you get promoted/demoted, so if they set up that feature while they were in Platinum 3, but they got demoted back to Platinum 5, they have to manually update it, but it won't be as crazy as someone whose only account is Level 13 saying they're in Master Tier. Either way, topics range from "How to get off tilt", "Why CS is more important than kills", to tutorials on how to do higher level mechanics such as "Offensive Input Buffering" and "Defensive Input Buffering" (which is SO USEFUL OMG I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THIS WAS A THING!!!!!!!). Seriously, check it out. This subreddit also has a chat room on the LoL client, cleverly called "Summoner School" (who woulda thunk it) where you can ask questions and get immediate replies. They also have a TeamSpeak server (link) for real time conversations as well. Another chat room exists called "SS Customs". This contains people from Summoner School that participate in "High vs Low" games, where people who are Platinum+ play against people who are in Gold and below and give real time feedback. This has been helpful even for me while playing on the High team. Everyone is SO NICE!
Bodytags (link) - THIS IS THE GUY THAT DID THE INPUT BUFFERING VIDEOS!! His videos are mostly about explaining mechanics and even though he doesn't make a large quantity of videos, they make up in quality!
unswlolsoc (link) - Guides on basics and why seemingly unimportant things are actually the most important. I especially enjoy his videos about lane management and trading in lane (especially with auto attacks). It's high quality information that usually goes unrecognized by most players when it's two of the biggest contributing factors to a low rank.
So there are a few resources that I have found that have some of the highest quality information around! If you know of any other YouTubers, people who write great articles, or anything like that, leave a reply with a link to their content! I would like to avoid people who strictly stream just because it's a very large time commitment for maybe not much information or just they're unable to properly give examples of how to do something (ie you can't teach people how to properly counter jungle and keep vision of the enemy jungle when you're losing so badly that you don't even have control/vision of your own jungle, etc). If a streamer makes YouTube videos in addition to streaming, that's fine, just be sure to link their YouTube channel with their stream.
green = If you do not know how to join chat rooms on the LoL client, click on the bubbles button between your friends list and notifications, click the folder that has a + next to it, then type in the title of the chat room in the blank box. You can click the gear icon on the top right of the chat room to make it "Autojoin on Startup"
pink = To get a link on where to download TeamSpeak and a guide on how to set it up, follow this link
Zeeb reacted to Yui in I am sad, it finally happened
Sooooooo as I was saying, for Diana jungle time management is key. If you don't hit your power spike in a relatively decent time frame you won't have much influence in the game. This means you need to be successful in your early ganks or forgo them and power farm the jungle. Just getting a summoner from a gank isn't worth, you need something that will propel you towards late game, such as gold and/or experience.
For items I do like your build. I would go Runeglaive, either trailblazer or stalkers. If you are afraid of getting invaded and need to have decent health go with trailblazer to maintain health while clearing. If not then go with stalker as it synergize with your chase and gank potential post 6. I have seen some pros go trailblazer and get a sheen as well but not upgrade it. Once they move into ganking they swap trailblazer for stalker for the small exchange price then upgrade to runeglaive. Ludian's, Nashors, Zhonyas, and Deathcap are all good items on Diana. If you need Magic pen I like to go Abyssal scepter as you are already diving and getting close so you will apply the aura easily and it gives you some defensive stats. For boots I would suggest Sorcerer's boots as you have decent map movement already and the magic pen is helpful for your burst.
So what are Diana's power spikes? Experience-wise level 6 is probably one of her biggest spikes as she gains the ability to burst her target and chase as well. Her movement across the map will increase as she can then q camps over walls and jump to them. At this point ganks will become easier as you can capitalize easier on mispositions and many players don't anticipate Diana's high damage, it has definitely surprised me before. After level 6 I would shift from a power farming game sense to a more gank-centric play style. Item-wise getting that sheen proc adds a decent amount burst to your package. Ludian's will provide a lot of burst damage so if they have squishies on their team look to rush that and dumpster them. If you need more sustained damage to take out some tankier targets get Nashors. The attack speed and AP will allow for you to still have some burst but also proc your 3rd auto passive more.
Hope this helps!
Zeeb reacted to Yui in I am sad, it finally happened
Diana is a super risky jungler. She is a burst mage that requires items and levels to succeed. This means that your early game pressure potential is low and can allow for an enemy team to establish a lead before you become relevant. Since she also requires gold, your time management is important so you can get your items and blow people up sooner. A failed gank can ruin a Diana game. I'll go into it more this evening since I'm in class but I'll be back I promise!
Zeeb reacted to Eternal in You won the teamfight! What's next?
I think that's true for all competitive games though. The difference between good and great always seems to be in the fine details. I think an interesting aspect of this is how different players react to different games. I was always able to get high rankings in games that I have played before(Halo 3 is the one I'm most proud of though), but cannot get over that initial hump of scrubiness(new word) in League. A lot of the little details do carry over, but there are so many additional things to think about in LoL its really overwhelming.