As the days roll by and from the look of our guilds progression that time seems to be going fast as we are approaching the moment of raiding. From my observation it seems about half of the guild has raided before and know what is going on while the other half is new to this side of the MMO world and is unfamiliar with raiding and what it entails. With raiding there is some etiquette that goes along with it. Now this mainly goes for when you “pug” in raiding, what I mean by the term “pug” is that you are filling a role in a raid that is not hosted within our guild or within a close group of friends or at least people that you raid with on occasion (they don’t always have to be friends). But also keep in mind that this as well goes along with raiding with the Guild, now the Guild should be more forgiving then a pug raid (unless that individual fails to understand his mistakes then punish them with impunity) The following are some guidelines to go by to make the experience good for everyone and an attempt to keep everyone happy!
Things that we should do during the raid:
One of the biggest things to remember is to be polite. This means you. No swearing at (or in the general direction) of other players either in writing or via voice. No racism/sexism either. Basically for the most part remember: Don’t be a dick!
Learn from your mistakes! It happens we all screw up sometimes we stand in the bad shit to long or miss a interrupt but the thing that we should all expect is that we will always be able to do better. None of us want to stay in a raid until we get it perfect, but we need to improve each time we do something and do it right so we do not waste everyone’s time and effort they put into raiding.
It happens some of us do not have perfect connections (but if you can afford it try WTFast to help with your connection http://www.wtfast.com/.). But hey that's how we roll. It will sometimes cause wipes. Some of us have 90ms latency others can have up to 550ms or even push up to 1200ms. If you are willing to raid with your latency then by all means do so you know how it affects your game the main thing is don’t always use that as an excuse do your best adapt and overcome and if you have to excuse yourself from the raid we can always make it up because no one like endless wipes and repair bills about things that might be avoidable.
Lag/Latency is not an excuse for killing or attacking the wrong targets, or continuing to stay in the fire. Ideally you will respond in 400ms of an event (200ms latency + 200ms reaction time). Some of us won't be able to respond for a little longer. Regardless, follow the raid leaders instructions.
Acknowledge that we don't all play on the same skill level. New raiders are welcome, as are hard core die hard raiders or even players going casual, but all of us in the raid will not be experts so give it time and don’t hound on people that make an occasional mistake.
This raid is not your other raid and this raid is not just your raid, it is not just your work or time that is going into it. It’s a coordinated effort of a group of people, things change and not everything will go right every time. If you need to beat something or rage fit there is a boss and mobs around the corner, these are a more appropriate target for your frustration then your teammates or guild mates.
Emotions are contagious.
People's reactions are better when slightly stressed, but still in control and concentrating.
Making people overly stressed causes them to freeze.
Too much silliness prevents concentration.
Before a pull
Ask questions, make suggestions, disagree (politely)
Say what you will do/want done differently, simply and explicitly. Consensus is preferable, but not required. For examples
Player A use tremor totem in phase 2
Everybody move around the outside of the ring, not through the middle.
Healer A should heal Player B; Healer B should heal Tank D. Healer C is on raid heals.
During a pull
CUT THE CHATTER!!!. Cutting the chatter will leave room for more useful information.
Call out things we are struggling on. 'Run to totems when you have XXX Mob'. 'All DPS on adds'
After a wipe
Everyone run back. Healers need mana too, and it is just easier all round.
Group together, it makes buffing that much easier.
Eat the feast or your preferred buff food
Discuss the cause of the wipe.
Everyone ask yourself 'What can I do better?'. It doesn't matter if you are carrying the raid, if there is something you can do better, then do it.
If you caused the wipe, fess up. It makes it much easier for the raid leader.
Either say what you are going to do next time, or ask for assistance.
If someone does not do their role correctly, call it out but don’t be a douche about it.
If you are frustrated, you should whisper someone else (probably the raid leader), explain your frustrations but don’t bitch and whine just to whine
Everyone needs to pay attention to how to prevent the wipe. Understanding is expected the first time even though you may not be able to do it technically. However, people get pissy if a different player causes the same wipe over and over again.
After a success
Enjoy the moment.
Congratulate the group if you have previously had problems.
Congratulate anyone who specifically showed improvement.
Allow others to enjoy the moment. If someone wants the screenshot, give it to them. People who don't are being unpleasant.
Giving constructive feedback.
Sometimes another player will need to do something different.
They will listen better if you also provide positive feedback. If you can't give positive feedback, talk to your Raid Leader or Guild Master.
Expect someone to learn one thing only at a time.
If you think they should learn more than one thing, see the line immediately above
If you still think they should learn more, talk with your Guild Master.
After the feedback discuss how or what:
What needs to improve?
Why it is important.
How it should be done better.
Avoid giving destructive feedback.
Any feedback given to a player should be constructive feedback.
If you still need to be destructive, well don’t talk let someone else handle it.
These are basic concepts that everyone should follow and already know however in the passion of raiding the simple things above are easily forgotten. The one things that we need and or should focus on is that its everyone time is going into this., everyone may have had something to do but they all made an effort to pull the raid off so don’t waste peoples time. Know the raid look up a YouTube video or an encounters before raiding. Make sure you have the proper potions, foods and gear level. Make sure you have Mumble or Ventrillo or whatever you need to have in order to communicate or hear what the raid group is saying. Pay attention and don’t make the same stupid mistakes over and over again. Remember the most important thing is to
In a previous post I mentioned add-ons I will re-post the basic add-ons you should have while raiding:
1) Omen Threat Meter. What this add-on does is allows you to see exactly where you fall on a mob’s threat list compared to everyone else in the raid. What this does is help you with threat management in the raid of the first few seconds of a pull. Omen is unobtrusive when things are under control, this will help prevent wipes and should be installed.
2) Deadly Boss Mods (DBM). If you are using an older computer and lots of add-ons give you issues then this is the must have. What DBM adds is an prominent visual and audio warnings to every raid encounter in the game this helps to improve awareness to what is going on. For most encounters, DBM will display timer bars for key boss abilities so that your raid knows exactly when they’re coming.
3) GTFO. This mod is great for those raiders that just get tunnel vision and do not pay attention to their surroundings The add-on itself does only one thing – it blares an obnoxious alarm whenever you’re standing in something that is hurting you.
For those that are planning to take the lead role in raiding here are a couple of add-ons that will help you out:
1) Recount. Most people probably have this installed anyway (especially if they play a DPSer), so you’re likely covered here. The reason that you’ll want Recount as a raid leader isn’t for the damage meters (although that information can be useful as well). On fights where your raid is struggling, you’re going to need to figure out what is going wrong, Recount is a good resource for that. Recount allows you to see exactly what killed people, and what those people were doing for the ~10 seconds leading up to their death (and whether or not they were being healed, etc). Recount will also give you visibility into what people are attacking (so that you can find the DPSers that aren’t properly switching targets), and whether or not people are interrupting, etc.
2) EnsidiaFails. This one might be a bit controversial in your group if you have some defensive and/or soft-skinned types, but it really is a valuable tool that will provide an extra layer of immediate feedback when people make mistakes. EnsidiaFails (EF) tracks common player mistakes on boss encounters. These mistakes can be spit out into /raid chat immediately as they happen, reported automatically whenever a boss attempt is over, or reported on demand. The most common type of mistakes that EF will pick up on involve players that fail to move to avoid damage -this helps ensure that the raid group knows that whatever just happened to them was avoidable, and their responsibility.
When you get to level 90 and start gearing up for raiding, I would suggest using Ask Mr. Robot.
It's a tool that tells you how to reforge all of your gear and what gems are best in each piece of gear. It also has great resources like how to use your bonus rolls in raids, how to spend valor/justice points on gear and upgrades, and what your best in slot (BiS) is, etc.
Some people don't like the way it works so another good resource is Icy Veins. This site will tell you everything you need to know about your character and spec. From what gems and stats to focus on, to what your rotation should be for max DPS/heals, and more. Even in low levels, it's worth looking at so you can maximize your character and get used to how you will have to play it later on.
Awesome nice to meet you SageRonin! I myself am a Martial Artist, I have been training BJJ / Tai / Kickboxing / Wrestling for the past 4 years. I am currently 3-1 as an amatuer Mixed Martial Artist.
Anyway, welcome to the community and I like your attitude! Good luck with your app and hope to see you around on mumble!!
A few days ago it was brought to my attention that people were offended by my behavior in solo que games. Since joining vVv i have greatly improved my behavior. Before joining i would leave probably an average of 20% of all my games. I knew it would have to stop when i signed with them. Since joining i have not left any games and i thought had improved my behavior to a satisfactory level. a few days ago it was brought to my attention that i need to take my behavior improvement a step further and promise to give nobody a reason, save maybe me making a bad play, to complain about me again. I also would like to apologize for my past behavior. If anybody would like to keep tabs on me or see that i'm serious about this please tune into my stream (twitch.tv/decimater) or add me in game so you can spectate while i play.