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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Saturn in CHOP LIST APRIL '20   
    Honestly, I believe this was the wrong approach. I really don't mean to offend anyone and I am very sorry if you take it the wrong way but here is my opinion if you care for it.

    So far mentality of every president that got on board was, chop, chop and chop. Sadly I made the same mistake as well and in all honestly, I have not seen a single positive thing to come out of it.  I learned from this mistake and here is me trying to share what I learned so you don't repeat it. Recently we chopped away 90% of out discord members in a day, why? Because they were not active, and now they never will be. Why don't we go and chop 90% of our twitter followers? its the same thing as far as I see it, they don't follow nor re-post our content anyway, so whats the point, we can delete the account, create it again and start over. I honestly see that no different than what has been done so far with discord. I think its high time we realize that discord is a platform for advertising, socializing, information sharing and so much more all spun in one. Its best of every world (social media platform wise) and I feel we just threw that away. We can use it to have a following so much more immersive than any other website you can name. And for the chunk of people that is there and not involved, I don't see as a problem but rather an opportunity to get them involved.

    Maybe I understood it wrong when @vVv Doomhammer explained it to me all those years ago. Maybe I even misunderstood as I sat in Mumble server listening to @vVv LordJerith promoting @vVv sK1ppY to an honorary member back then, but it went something along like this. Skippy, you have done so much for our community that I am promoting you to an honorary member, that means you can never be chopped and is a way of the community thanking you for your hard work, donations and effort you have put in. You have done so much, you earned your V's for life. Now Jerry may not have used those words exactly, but that is what I understood him say behind his speech, and that is one of the key moments that made me want to stay involved with vVv through all the hardships I have watched it go through. So if I understood it wrong then that is on me, but if I haven't then I really think that chopping the honorary members is the wrong way to go.

    I understand the problem of getting honorary status and washing your hands away. I always saw this as an issue as I tried very hard to get people engaged back and had next to no success with anyone holding the honorary title. I back then decided that it wasn't the right problem for me to fix so I focused on building new content with new members as oppose to relying on the old who kept giving "making vVv great again" speech i keep seeing everywhere. I now find myself wishing I gave this problem a bit more thought and action back then, seeing where its going next.

    I don't like to be the person who just whines and complains, I like to be the person who bring a solution to the table, so I would like to offer a suggestion. And before I get into it, I just want to make it clear that I fully appreciate the great deal of time and effort invested in giving this matter a thought. I know it wasn't an easy decision and I know you debated it for a while and I hope you don't find my words too harsh as I really mean well and want you to succeed.

    The first thing is I believe that as oppose to chopping honorary members flat out and giving them some ultimatum, you try to understand them and actually ask them what they want. Will you ever come back? What will it take? Ask every person individually. If you really want to understand the problem then don't make a single post and expect answers, you have to get into those one on one conversations and actually hear the person and understand what they are saying, not just hear them, but really understand them.

    The second thing is, a lot of you here supporting this chop would of gotten chopped by your definition when I took over, I cant name very many of you that I see here to have come back to support vVv Gaming when I took over. You all went away and it doesn't matter why. So if I cut ties with you back then, well you wouldn't be here now coming back trying to rebuild. I see the members of vVv Gaming come and go in waves and these honorary members return every so often to come back and try to help. They have long periods of inactivity but they do come back eventually and try to help, even if its a post here and there offering their peace of mind. I always found those helpful. By chopping them, we are officially saying that we do not appreciate the work they did. So why on earth would they want to come back later?

    So the root of the problem as I see it is that the honorary role was meant to say, you did so much thank you. But it seems you want the honorary role to now also mean active to some degree. So why not archive (I wish I could find a better word to describe this) instead of chop. Why not still recognize people we are removing for what they did as oppose to flat out saying good bye. So the Honorary Role could still mean all those great things, but it can also mean the person is active to some degree and for those honorary members who no longer wish to be active at the present time, we simply move them to a historic role where their accomplishments are listed. We recognize the time and effort they put in, we acknowledge them still but also show that they are no longer actively involved in the community. And if they want to come back tomorrow and become active again, they can and we can move them back to honorary, it saves everyone feelings and we continue to thank them for their hard work. And we can decide on who to keep honorary and who to keep historic by talking to them individually. After all the work they put in, I think the least we can do is show them a bit of gratitude and respect by reaching out to them personally instead of some massive post of get active or get chopped.

    Bottom line is, I feel this was the wrong move and I feel it sends a wrong message to anyone who wants to get involved with vVv Gaming moving forward.
  2. Like
    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv DulceArma in CHOP LIST APRIL '20   
    Honestly, I believe this was the wrong approach. I really don't mean to offend anyone and I am very sorry if you take it the wrong way but here is my opinion if you care for it.

    So far mentality of every president that got on board was, chop, chop and chop. Sadly I made the same mistake as well and in all honestly, I have not seen a single positive thing to come out of it.  I learned from this mistake and here is me trying to share what I learned so you don't repeat it. Recently we chopped away 90% of out discord members in a day, why? Because they were not active, and now they never will be. Why don't we go and chop 90% of our twitter followers? its the same thing as far as I see it, they don't follow nor re-post our content anyway, so whats the point, we can delete the account, create it again and start over. I honestly see that no different than what has been done so far with discord. I think its high time we realize that discord is a platform for advertising, socializing, information sharing and so much more all spun in one. Its best of every world (social media platform wise) and I feel we just threw that away. We can use it to have a following so much more immersive than any other website you can name. And for the chunk of people that is there and not involved, I don't see as a problem but rather an opportunity to get them involved.

    Maybe I understood it wrong when @vVv Doomhammer explained it to me all those years ago. Maybe I even misunderstood as I sat in Mumble server listening to @vVv LordJerith promoting @vVv sK1ppY to an honorary member back then, but it went something along like this. Skippy, you have done so much for our community that I am promoting you to an honorary member, that means you can never be chopped and is a way of the community thanking you for your hard work, donations and effort you have put in. You have done so much, you earned your V's for life. Now Jerry may not have used those words exactly, but that is what I understood him say behind his speech, and that is one of the key moments that made me want to stay involved with vVv through all the hardships I have watched it go through. So if I understood it wrong then that is on me, but if I haven't then I really think that chopping the honorary members is the wrong way to go.

    I understand the problem of getting honorary status and washing your hands away. I always saw this as an issue as I tried very hard to get people engaged back and had next to no success with anyone holding the honorary title. I back then decided that it wasn't the right problem for me to fix so I focused on building new content with new members as oppose to relying on the old who kept giving "making vVv great again" speech i keep seeing everywhere. I now find myself wishing I gave this problem a bit more thought and action back then, seeing where its going next.

    I don't like to be the person who just whines and complains, I like to be the person who bring a solution to the table, so I would like to offer a suggestion. And before I get into it, I just want to make it clear that I fully appreciate the great deal of time and effort invested in giving this matter a thought. I know it wasn't an easy decision and I know you debated it for a while and I hope you don't find my words too harsh as I really mean well and want you to succeed.

    The first thing is I believe that as oppose to chopping honorary members flat out and giving them some ultimatum, you try to understand them and actually ask them what they want. Will you ever come back? What will it take? Ask every person individually. If you really want to understand the problem then don't make a single post and expect answers, you have to get into those one on one conversations and actually hear the person and understand what they are saying, not just hear them, but really understand them.

    The second thing is, a lot of you here supporting this chop would of gotten chopped by your definition when I took over, I cant name very many of you that I see here to have come back to support vVv Gaming when I took over. You all went away and it doesn't matter why. So if I cut ties with you back then, well you wouldn't be here now coming back trying to rebuild. I see the members of vVv Gaming come and go in waves and these honorary members return every so often to come back and try to help. They have long periods of inactivity but they do come back eventually and try to help, even if its a post here and there offering their peace of mind. I always found those helpful. By chopping them, we are officially saying that we do not appreciate the work they did. So why on earth would they want to come back later?

    So the root of the problem as I see it is that the honorary role was meant to say, you did so much thank you. But it seems you want the honorary role to now also mean active to some degree. So why not archive (I wish I could find a better word to describe this) instead of chop. Why not still recognize people we are removing for what they did as oppose to flat out saying good bye. So the Honorary Role could still mean all those great things, but it can also mean the person is active to some degree and for those honorary members who no longer wish to be active at the present time, we simply move them to a historic role where their accomplishments are listed. We recognize the time and effort they put in, we acknowledge them still but also show that they are no longer actively involved in the community. And if they want to come back tomorrow and become active again, they can and we can move them back to honorary, it saves everyone feelings and we continue to thank them for their hard work. And we can decide on who to keep honorary and who to keep historic by talking to them individually. After all the work they put in, I think the least we can do is show them a bit of gratitude and respect by reaching out to them personally instead of some massive post of get active or get chopped.

    Bottom line is, I feel this was the wrong move and I feel it sends a wrong message to anyone who wants to get involved with vVv Gaming moving forward.
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from Apollo ex-vvv in CHOP LIST APRIL '20   
    Honestly, I believe this was the wrong approach. I really don't mean to offend anyone and I am very sorry if you take it the wrong way but here is my opinion if you care for it.

    So far mentality of every president that got on board was, chop, chop and chop. Sadly I made the same mistake as well and in all honestly, I have not seen a single positive thing to come out of it.  I learned from this mistake and here is me trying to share what I learned so you don't repeat it. Recently we chopped away 90% of out discord members in a day, why? Because they were not active, and now they never will be. Why don't we go and chop 90% of our twitter followers? its the same thing as far as I see it, they don't follow nor re-post our content anyway, so whats the point, we can delete the account, create it again and start over. I honestly see that no different than what has been done so far with discord. I think its high time we realize that discord is a platform for advertising, socializing, information sharing and so much more all spun in one. Its best of every world (social media platform wise) and I feel we just threw that away. We can use it to have a following so much more immersive than any other website you can name. And for the chunk of people that is there and not involved, I don't see as a problem but rather an opportunity to get them involved.

    Maybe I understood it wrong when @vVv Doomhammer explained it to me all those years ago. Maybe I even misunderstood as I sat in Mumble server listening to @vVv LordJerith promoting @vVv sK1ppY to an honorary member back then, but it went something along like this. Skippy, you have done so much for our community that I am promoting you to an honorary member, that means you can never be chopped and is a way of the community thanking you for your hard work, donations and effort you have put in. You have done so much, you earned your V's for life. Now Jerry may not have used those words exactly, but that is what I understood him say behind his speech, and that is one of the key moments that made me want to stay involved with vVv through all the hardships I have watched it go through. So if I understood it wrong then that is on me, but if I haven't then I really think that chopping the honorary members is the wrong way to go.

    I understand the problem of getting honorary status and washing your hands away. I always saw this as an issue as I tried very hard to get people engaged back and had next to no success with anyone holding the honorary title. I back then decided that it wasn't the right problem for me to fix so I focused on building new content with new members as oppose to relying on the old who kept giving "making vVv great again" speech i keep seeing everywhere. I now find myself wishing I gave this problem a bit more thought and action back then, seeing where its going next.

    I don't like to be the person who just whines and complains, I like to be the person who bring a solution to the table, so I would like to offer a suggestion. And before I get into it, I just want to make it clear that I fully appreciate the great deal of time and effort invested in giving this matter a thought. I know it wasn't an easy decision and I know you debated it for a while and I hope you don't find my words too harsh as I really mean well and want you to succeed.

    The first thing is I believe that as oppose to chopping honorary members flat out and giving them some ultimatum, you try to understand them and actually ask them what they want. Will you ever come back? What will it take? Ask every person individually. If you really want to understand the problem then don't make a single post and expect answers, you have to get into those one on one conversations and actually hear the person and understand what they are saying, not just hear them, but really understand them.

    The second thing is, a lot of you here supporting this chop would of gotten chopped by your definition when I took over, I cant name very many of you that I see here to have come back to support vVv Gaming when I took over. You all went away and it doesn't matter why. So if I cut ties with you back then, well you wouldn't be here now coming back trying to rebuild. I see the members of vVv Gaming come and go in waves and these honorary members return every so often to come back and try to help. They have long periods of inactivity but they do come back eventually and try to help, even if its a post here and there offering their peace of mind. I always found those helpful. By chopping them, we are officially saying that we do not appreciate the work they did. So why on earth would they want to come back later?

    So the root of the problem as I see it is that the honorary role was meant to say, you did so much thank you. But it seems you want the honorary role to now also mean active to some degree. So why not archive (I wish I could find a better word to describe this) instead of chop. Why not still recognize people we are removing for what they did as oppose to flat out saying good bye. So the Honorary Role could still mean all those great things, but it can also mean the person is active to some degree and for those honorary members who no longer wish to be active at the present time, we simply move them to a historic role where their accomplishments are listed. We recognize the time and effort they put in, we acknowledge them still but also show that they are no longer actively involved in the community. And if they want to come back tomorrow and become active again, they can and we can move them back to honorary, it saves everyone feelings and we continue to thank them for their hard work. And we can decide on who to keep honorary and who to keep historic by talking to them individually. After all the work they put in, I think the least we can do is show them a bit of gratitude and respect by reaching out to them personally instead of some massive post of get active or get chopped.

    Bottom line is, I feel this was the wrong move and I feel it sends a wrong message to anyone who wants to get involved with vVv Gaming moving forward.
  4. Like
    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Syracuse in CHOP LIST APRIL '20   
    Honestly, I believe this was the wrong approach. I really don't mean to offend anyone and I am very sorry if you take it the wrong way but here is my opinion if you care for it.

    So far mentality of every president that got on board was, chop, chop and chop. Sadly I made the same mistake as well and in all honestly, I have not seen a single positive thing to come out of it.  I learned from this mistake and here is me trying to share what I learned so you don't repeat it. Recently we chopped away 90% of out discord members in a day, why? Because they were not active, and now they never will be. Why don't we go and chop 90% of our twitter followers? its the same thing as far as I see it, they don't follow nor re-post our content anyway, so whats the point, we can delete the account, create it again and start over. I honestly see that no different than what has been done so far with discord. I think its high time we realize that discord is a platform for advertising, socializing, information sharing and so much more all spun in one. Its best of every world (social media platform wise) and I feel we just threw that away. We can use it to have a following so much more immersive than any other website you can name. And for the chunk of people that is there and not involved, I don't see as a problem but rather an opportunity to get them involved.

    Maybe I understood it wrong when @vVv Doomhammer explained it to me all those years ago. Maybe I even misunderstood as I sat in Mumble server listening to @vVv LordJerith promoting @vVv sK1ppY to an honorary member back then, but it went something along like this. Skippy, you have done so much for our community that I am promoting you to an honorary member, that means you can never be chopped and is a way of the community thanking you for your hard work, donations and effort you have put in. You have done so much, you earned your V's for life. Now Jerry may not have used those words exactly, but that is what I understood him say behind his speech, and that is one of the key moments that made me want to stay involved with vVv through all the hardships I have watched it go through. So if I understood it wrong then that is on me, but if I haven't then I really think that chopping the honorary members is the wrong way to go.

    I understand the problem of getting honorary status and washing your hands away. I always saw this as an issue as I tried very hard to get people engaged back and had next to no success with anyone holding the honorary title. I back then decided that it wasn't the right problem for me to fix so I focused on building new content with new members as oppose to relying on the old who kept giving "making vVv great again" speech i keep seeing everywhere. I now find myself wishing I gave this problem a bit more thought and action back then, seeing where its going next.

    I don't like to be the person who just whines and complains, I like to be the person who bring a solution to the table, so I would like to offer a suggestion. And before I get into it, I just want to make it clear that I fully appreciate the great deal of time and effort invested in giving this matter a thought. I know it wasn't an easy decision and I know you debated it for a while and I hope you don't find my words too harsh as I really mean well and want you to succeed.

    The first thing is I believe that as oppose to chopping honorary members flat out and giving them some ultimatum, you try to understand them and actually ask them what they want. Will you ever come back? What will it take? Ask every person individually. If you really want to understand the problem then don't make a single post and expect answers, you have to get into those one on one conversations and actually hear the person and understand what they are saying, not just hear them, but really understand them.

    The second thing is, a lot of you here supporting this chop would of gotten chopped by your definition when I took over, I cant name very many of you that I see here to have come back to support vVv Gaming when I took over. You all went away and it doesn't matter why. So if I cut ties with you back then, well you wouldn't be here now coming back trying to rebuild. I see the members of vVv Gaming come and go in waves and these honorary members return every so often to come back and try to help. They have long periods of inactivity but they do come back eventually and try to help, even if its a post here and there offering their peace of mind. I always found those helpful. By chopping them, we are officially saying that we do not appreciate the work they did. So why on earth would they want to come back later?

    So the root of the problem as I see it is that the honorary role was meant to say, you did so much thank you. But it seems you want the honorary role to now also mean active to some degree. So why not archive (I wish I could find a better word to describe this) instead of chop. Why not still recognize people we are removing for what they did as oppose to flat out saying good bye. So the Honorary Role could still mean all those great things, but it can also mean the person is active to some degree and for those honorary members who no longer wish to be active at the present time, we simply move them to a historic role where their accomplishments are listed. We recognize the time and effort they put in, we acknowledge them still but also show that they are no longer actively involved in the community. And if they want to come back tomorrow and become active again, they can and we can move them back to honorary, it saves everyone feelings and we continue to thank them for their hard work. And we can decide on who to keep honorary and who to keep historic by talking to them individually. After all the work they put in, I think the least we can do is show them a bit of gratitude and respect by reaching out to them personally instead of some massive post of get active or get chopped.

    Bottom line is, I feel this was the wrong move and I feel it sends a wrong message to anyone who wants to get involved with vVv Gaming moving forward.
  5. Like
    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Hoagie in CHOP LIST APRIL '20   
    Honestly, I believe this was the wrong approach. I really don't mean to offend anyone and I am very sorry if you take it the wrong way but here is my opinion if you care for it.

    So far mentality of every president that got on board was, chop, chop and chop. Sadly I made the same mistake as well and in all honestly, I have not seen a single positive thing to come out of it.  I learned from this mistake and here is me trying to share what I learned so you don't repeat it. Recently we chopped away 90% of out discord members in a day, why? Because they were not active, and now they never will be. Why don't we go and chop 90% of our twitter followers? its the same thing as far as I see it, they don't follow nor re-post our content anyway, so whats the point, we can delete the account, create it again and start over. I honestly see that no different than what has been done so far with discord. I think its high time we realize that discord is a platform for advertising, socializing, information sharing and so much more all spun in one. Its best of every world (social media platform wise) and I feel we just threw that away. We can use it to have a following so much more immersive than any other website you can name. And for the chunk of people that is there and not involved, I don't see as a problem but rather an opportunity to get them involved.

    Maybe I understood it wrong when @vVv Doomhammer explained it to me all those years ago. Maybe I even misunderstood as I sat in Mumble server listening to @vVv LordJerith promoting @vVv sK1ppY to an honorary member back then, but it went something along like this. Skippy, you have done so much for our community that I am promoting you to an honorary member, that means you can never be chopped and is a way of the community thanking you for your hard work, donations and effort you have put in. You have done so much, you earned your V's for life. Now Jerry may not have used those words exactly, but that is what I understood him say behind his speech, and that is one of the key moments that made me want to stay involved with vVv through all the hardships I have watched it go through. So if I understood it wrong then that is on me, but if I haven't then I really think that chopping the honorary members is the wrong way to go.

    I understand the problem of getting honorary status and washing your hands away. I always saw this as an issue as I tried very hard to get people engaged back and had next to no success with anyone holding the honorary title. I back then decided that it wasn't the right problem for me to fix so I focused on building new content with new members as oppose to relying on the old who kept giving "making vVv great again" speech i keep seeing everywhere. I now find myself wishing I gave this problem a bit more thought and action back then, seeing where its going next.

    I don't like to be the person who just whines and complains, I like to be the person who bring a solution to the table, so I would like to offer a suggestion. And before I get into it, I just want to make it clear that I fully appreciate the great deal of time and effort invested in giving this matter a thought. I know it wasn't an easy decision and I know you debated it for a while and I hope you don't find my words too harsh as I really mean well and want you to succeed.

    The first thing is I believe that as oppose to chopping honorary members flat out and giving them some ultimatum, you try to understand them and actually ask them what they want. Will you ever come back? What will it take? Ask every person individually. If you really want to understand the problem then don't make a single post and expect answers, you have to get into those one on one conversations and actually hear the person and understand what they are saying, not just hear them, but really understand them.

    The second thing is, a lot of you here supporting this chop would of gotten chopped by your definition when I took over, I cant name very many of you that I see here to have come back to support vVv Gaming when I took over. You all went away and it doesn't matter why. So if I cut ties with you back then, well you wouldn't be here now coming back trying to rebuild. I see the members of vVv Gaming come and go in waves and these honorary members return every so often to come back and try to help. They have long periods of inactivity but they do come back eventually and try to help, even if its a post here and there offering their peace of mind. I always found those helpful. By chopping them, we are officially saying that we do not appreciate the work they did. So why on earth would they want to come back later?

    So the root of the problem as I see it is that the honorary role was meant to say, you did so much thank you. But it seems you want the honorary role to now also mean active to some degree. So why not archive (I wish I could find a better word to describe this) instead of chop. Why not still recognize people we are removing for what they did as oppose to flat out saying good bye. So the Honorary Role could still mean all those great things, but it can also mean the person is active to some degree and for those honorary members who no longer wish to be active at the present time, we simply move them to a historic role where their accomplishments are listed. We recognize the time and effort they put in, we acknowledge them still but also show that they are no longer actively involved in the community. And if they want to come back tomorrow and become active again, they can and we can move them back to honorary, it saves everyone feelings and we continue to thank them for their hard work. And we can decide on who to keep honorary and who to keep historic by talking to them individually. After all the work they put in, I think the least we can do is show them a bit of gratitude and respect by reaching out to them personally instead of some massive post of get active or get chopped.

    Bottom line is, I feel this was the wrong move and I feel it sends a wrong message to anyone who wants to get involved with vVv Gaming moving forward.
  6. Like
    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Minjaaa in CHOP LIST APRIL '20   
    Honestly, I believe this was the wrong approach. I really don't mean to offend anyone and I am very sorry if you take it the wrong way but here is my opinion if you care for it.

    So far mentality of every president that got on board was, chop, chop and chop. Sadly I made the same mistake as well and in all honestly, I have not seen a single positive thing to come out of it.  I learned from this mistake and here is me trying to share what I learned so you don't repeat it. Recently we chopped away 90% of out discord members in a day, why? Because they were not active, and now they never will be. Why don't we go and chop 90% of our twitter followers? its the same thing as far as I see it, they don't follow nor re-post our content anyway, so whats the point, we can delete the account, create it again and start over. I honestly see that no different than what has been done so far with discord. I think its high time we realize that discord is a platform for advertising, socializing, information sharing and so much more all spun in one. Its best of every world (social media platform wise) and I feel we just threw that away. We can use it to have a following so much more immersive than any other website you can name. And for the chunk of people that is there and not involved, I don't see as a problem but rather an opportunity to get them involved.

    Maybe I understood it wrong when @vVv Doomhammer explained it to me all those years ago. Maybe I even misunderstood as I sat in Mumble server listening to @vVv LordJerith promoting @vVv sK1ppY to an honorary member back then, but it went something along like this. Skippy, you have done so much for our community that I am promoting you to an honorary member, that means you can never be chopped and is a way of the community thanking you for your hard work, donations and effort you have put in. You have done so much, you earned your V's for life. Now Jerry may not have used those words exactly, but that is what I understood him say behind his speech, and that is one of the key moments that made me want to stay involved with vVv through all the hardships I have watched it go through. So if I understood it wrong then that is on me, but if I haven't then I really think that chopping the honorary members is the wrong way to go.

    I understand the problem of getting honorary status and washing your hands away. I always saw this as an issue as I tried very hard to get people engaged back and had next to no success with anyone holding the honorary title. I back then decided that it wasn't the right problem for me to fix so I focused on building new content with new members as oppose to relying on the old who kept giving "making vVv great again" speech i keep seeing everywhere. I now find myself wishing I gave this problem a bit more thought and action back then, seeing where its going next.

    I don't like to be the person who just whines and complains, I like to be the person who bring a solution to the table, so I would like to offer a suggestion. And before I get into it, I just want to make it clear that I fully appreciate the great deal of time and effort invested in giving this matter a thought. I know it wasn't an easy decision and I know you debated it for a while and I hope you don't find my words too harsh as I really mean well and want you to succeed.

    The first thing is I believe that as oppose to chopping honorary members flat out and giving them some ultimatum, you try to understand them and actually ask them what they want. Will you ever come back? What will it take? Ask every person individually. If you really want to understand the problem then don't make a single post and expect answers, you have to get into those one on one conversations and actually hear the person and understand what they are saying, not just hear them, but really understand them.

    The second thing is, a lot of you here supporting this chop would of gotten chopped by your definition when I took over, I cant name very many of you that I see here to have come back to support vVv Gaming when I took over. You all went away and it doesn't matter why. So if I cut ties with you back then, well you wouldn't be here now coming back trying to rebuild. I see the members of vVv Gaming come and go in waves and these honorary members return every so often to come back and try to help. They have long periods of inactivity but they do come back eventually and try to help, even if its a post here and there offering their peace of mind. I always found those helpful. By chopping them, we are officially saying that we do not appreciate the work they did. So why on earth would they want to come back later?

    So the root of the problem as I see it is that the honorary role was meant to say, you did so much thank you. But it seems you want the honorary role to now also mean active to some degree. So why not archive (I wish I could find a better word to describe this) instead of chop. Why not still recognize people we are removing for what they did as oppose to flat out saying good bye. So the Honorary Role could still mean all those great things, but it can also mean the person is active to some degree and for those honorary members who no longer wish to be active at the present time, we simply move them to a historic role where their accomplishments are listed. We recognize the time and effort they put in, we acknowledge them still but also show that they are no longer actively involved in the community. And if they want to come back tomorrow and become active again, they can and we can move them back to honorary, it saves everyone feelings and we continue to thank them for their hard work. And we can decide on who to keep honorary and who to keep historic by talking to them individually. After all the work they put in, I think the least we can do is show them a bit of gratitude and respect by reaching out to them personally instead of some massive post of get active or get chopped.

    Bottom line is, I feel this was the wrong move and I feel it sends a wrong message to anyone who wants to get involved with vVv Gaming moving forward.
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Exodus in vVv Milkyy and vVv Fr0ot X New President and VP of vVv Gaming   
    Congrats and wishing you best of luck on your attempt to turn things around
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv F R 0 o T x in vVv Milkyy and vVv Fr0ot X New President and VP of vVv Gaming   
    Congrats and wishing you best of luck on your attempt to turn things around
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv ORION in New vVv Logo Design   
    I always saw red as our color, not gray, white or black. Other colors always felt more as supportive colors. For that reason I think the middle V should be red, if you feel there is too much red, maybe make the wings be other colors? See how that would look like?
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Stitches in New vVv Logo Design   
    I always saw red as our color, not gray, white or black. Other colors always felt more as supportive colors. For that reason I think the middle V should be red, if you feel there is too much red, maybe make the wings be other colors? See how that would look like?
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    vVv Bagzli reacted to vVv Slick in New vVv Logo Design   
    If we are hard set on the shield design. I feel that a hybrid between the shield design below and Bagzli's idea ( https://imgur.com/jD2OZXP ) would bring together the ideology of rebranding the organization and rebuilding it, while also maintaining the Org's history that has been preserved through the last decade. The Eagle and Chevrons in the middle dont hold the vVv essence at all in my opinion.

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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv B1zkit in Former vVv Members and where they are now....   
    Where am I at today? 
    Many of you here that have posted probably do not know me as I came after your time here, however, I am Bagzli and I did a number of things at vVv Gaming. I've started out as an admin in our Guild Wars 2 Guild and moved onto running the said Guild, followed by running all the MMO guilds we had and then even became the President of vVv Gaming. I've also built the current website that we have now.  I have been eSports focused with my time here, but I focused on creating content instead of participating in it. For example, I would create Tournaments for players to participate. I did this in Guild Wars 2 (Kings of The Mists), Rocket League (Supersonic Series), and PUBG (The Armaggedon Series). Currently, I still lurk the forums from time to time and drop in to say hi on Discord. I would say today I'm in a great place. I've recently bought a house and am counting days until I can move in. For me, this was a huge milestone to cross and I'm very happy I've finally accomplished that goal.

    Do I still Game? 
    I still game, however, due to my efforts mostly being focused on a personal project, I've driven down to currently playing a game that lets me be very casual... Runescape... I've always loved MMO's, That is actually how I found vVv Gaming, through Guild Wars 2 Guild. I also play from time to time: Rocket League, Dead By Daylight, Dota 2, PUBG, and Overwatch.

    What platform do I mainly play on now?  I've always been a PC Player, although I did buy a switch and been loving Legend of Zelda. I do also own XBOX One, just its been collecting dust lately...
    What do I do for work?  I'm a software engineer. I create websites. I've worked on Payment Processing websites in the past and now I work for a startup company which is a different type of adventure for me than what my previous work was.
    Did your time in vVv affect where you are at today? 
    Yes, time spent here I will never regret as it has given me opportunities to grow in various areas. I'd like to believe I have grown as a person from my interactions with various people I have met due to the work I did here and as well as professionally. vVv Gaming website has been the first website I ever made on my own and it has given me the confidence to create more websites and seek better opportunities due to that experience.
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Vall in Member Application - Alexa.   
    Hi Alexa,
     
    Good luck on your app, which by the way is one of the better apps I have seen in a while, so good job on putting some thought and time into it! Also, you got to play with Vall...wow that girl has been avoiding me like the plague. So jealous right now...
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv GrimWolf in vVv Application - GrimWolf   
    I, vVv Bagzli, endorse Grimwolf!
    How much time have you spent with the applicant, in-game or out? 
    I don't have an exact number but been playing with Joshua for about 3-4 months at least. What was your first impression of the community member? Did it change at all over time? If so, how?
    I don't honestly remember my first impression, however, I can say that he is a person who tries hard and is willing to take feedback. What was your favorite moment with them (in-game or out)?
    My favorite moment was when he defeated me in a 1v1 game. He didn't go to brag about it nor has ever brought it up.  Typically people are too quick to brag about that, but not Grimm. I like him better as a person for that. What makes this applicant a good fit for vVv Gaming?
    He is very active on our discord and I think this activity alone helps us bring more people to vVv Gaming. How could they improve to be a better potential community member?
    I would say that I do often see him sitting alone in a channel. I would suggest that when you can't find anyone online to play with, a good strategy is to meet somebody in a pug 2v2 and befriend them, bring them on discord and next time when there is nobody around again, they might be! Anything else we should know about this applicant? Any skills or talents that no one else knows yet?
    Unfortunately, I don't have anything
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from NKDZCK in Member Application - NKDZCK   
    Hey Zack,
     
    I'm a little worried about your application as I rarely ever see you on our discord getting to know our community. You seem like a great guy, you learn fast as a coder and a tournament admin and are the kind of person I wish to fill our community with. However, you do need to get the endorsements to be able to become a member and your track right now is not very good as I'm not seeing you interacting with the community at all. Please keep in mind that if you don't get an endorsement after 3 weeks, I am forced to close your application, and there is a period of 1 month before you can open it again.
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Petey in vVv App Petedz   
    Only if you prove it. You should keep in mind... nudes are a form of currency around here... just ask Petey if you don't believe me. 
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from Nick Slagle in vVv Application (Mugen)   
    You've mentioned that you go to school, what do you study and what led you down that path?
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from Nick Slagle in vVv Application (Mugen)   
    Awesome to se you finally apply!
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv deathsgrasp in application - deathsgrasp24   
    Here is a bit of help with grammar.  It is a google chrome extension and it does wonders, give it a try

    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/grammarly-for-chrome/kbfnbcaeplbcioakkpcpgfkobkghlhen?hl=en

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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Saturn in Member Application - Broba TC   
    I, vVv Bagzli, endorse Broba!
    How much time have you spent with the applicant, in-game or out? 
    I have play a decent amount of games with Broba, but I can't say we play on regular basis. What was your first impression of the community member? Did it change at all over time? If so, how?
    My initial impression of Broba was that he is very energetic and that he has the potential to make a great caster.  Over time my opinion has not changed. What makes this applicant a good fit for vVv Gaming?
    Broba seems keen to help out, he was all too happy to accept the role of Stream Coordinator and from what I can tell he has been doing a fantastic job.  He Volunteers his time outside of vVv Gaming, but understands and knows how to manage his priorities.  From what I have seen he is a person to count on and I hope that he will show us what he is capable of now that he has all the tools to succeed. How could they improve to be a better potential community member?
    I'd heavily encourage higher forum activity, if there is nothing to reply to, its ok to start a new discussion yourself! Anything else we should know about this applicant? Any skills or talents that no one else knows yet?
    He works hard, plays harder and is a blast to hang out with.  His casting is better with each stream.
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Mohulis in Member Application - Mohulis   
    I, vVv Bagzli, endorse Mohulis!
    How much time have you spent with the applicant, in-game or out? 
    I have not played too much with Mohulis but we talk almost on daily basis. What was your first impression of the community member? Did it change at all over time? If so, how?
    My initial impression of Mohulis was that he would make a good tournament admin.  Over time he has proven my statement to be true.  He now runs all the Rocket League tournaments for us. What makes this applicant a good fit for vVv Gaming?
    It has been quite some time since I found a person that I can give a long list of tasks to do with a deadline and come back to it to find them all done.  Honestly, Mohulis has been going over and beyond to keep vVv Gaming connected to other Rocket League communities, to keep our tournaments running, and impressively still looks to do more.  Mohulis is a sole definition to 4 of the 5 pillars that define vVv Gaming: Value, Excellence, Diversity and Chain of Command. How could they improve to be a better potential community member?
    Forum Activity is very sparse, I understand how busy he gets, however, I would try to focus a bit of attention to interacting with community members over the forum. Anything else we should know about this applicant? Any skills or talents that no one else knows yet?
    He is hard-working, easy to get along with and loves playing rocket league
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Syracuse in Community Application - Syracuse   
    Hi Colin,
     
    It is awesome to see you apply!  I wish you the best luck with your application!  I wanted to let you in on a change we have made to the application process.  Seeing how we have been pruning a lot of members recently, we feel at this point that seeking 5 endorsements may prove to be quite a challenge.  As such, we are changing the application process to require 3 endorsements.  With this change, we are also changing how long you have to wait between endorsements from 7 to 10 days.  This will ensure that your application lasts at the minimum of 30 days which will give you plenty of time to get to know us by the time you have your pre-interview.
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from vVv Azazel in Supersonic Series Season 4!   
    Supersonic Series Season 4 starts on Monday, October 10th, 2016
     
    vVv Gaming is proud to present the return of the Supersonic Series!  Unique game nights each week will allow teams and individual Rocketeers to bring their A game and level up their gaming skills!  Whether the goal is to improve teamwork, find suitable opponents, or just acquire valuable feedback on how to improve one’s gameplay, these events will accomplish just that!
     
    Quick Facts:
    Supersonic Draft is every Monday at 7:30 PM EST. Supersonic Showdown is every Thursday at 7:30 PM EST. Supersonic Showdown will be factored into the RLC Power Rankings! Supersonic Showdown will be streamed, Supersonic Draft will not (unless we find more casters - interested? click here) Supersonic Series Rules & Regulations can be found by clicking here. To register for the tournaments visit www.vvv-gaming.com/rocket-league/register on the day of the tournament If you are late to check-ins via our Discord Server, you will not get to play.  Don't be late. To stay up to date with Supersonic Series, follow us on Twitter @vVv_Gaming Scroll to the bottom of this post to learn more about becoming a vVv Gaming Community member or how you can join our staff Season 4 will last 8 Weeks, which will be followed by a Season Finale which will be the 9th Week of the Series Supersonic Draft Season Finale will feature top 24 players based on the Solo Leaderboard from Season 4 Supersonic Showdown Season Finale will feature top 8 teams based on the Team Leaderboard from Season 4  
    Supersonic Draft
    When: Mondays at 8PM EST (5PM PST)  Check-in starts at 7:30PM EST and close at 7:45PM EST
    Where: vVv Gaming Discord Server: http://www.vvv-gaming.com/discord/invite  (Discord Guide: http://www.vvv-gaming.com/discord/guide)
    Format: 3vs3 - Double Elimination Tournament. Best of three in the winner's bracket and best of one in the loser's bracket until the last two matches which return to best of three.
    Style: Captain's Draft - Captains are chosen at random (see Registration section for more details) and each captain picks their team-mates. Captains will take turns picking their teammates in a “snake-style” (A, B, C, C, B, A) draft until all teams have 3 players each. Participating with friends is encouraged, however, there is no guarantee that you will be on the same team. The captain’s name will be entered into the Challonge bracket and will be used to represent their team.  Voice channels will be created for each of the teams on our Discord server.
    Registration: Visit http://vvv-gaming.com/rocket-league/register on the day of the tournament to register.  While signing up you will be able to volunteer to be a captain.  If there are more volunteer captains than the total number of teams, the captains will be picked at random from the pool of volunteers.  If there are not enough volunteer captains, then the remaining number of captains needed will be chosen at random from the remainder of players.  


    Supersonic Showdown
    When: Thursdays at 8PM EST (5PM PST)  Check-in starts at 7:30PM EST and close at 7:45PM EST
    Where: vVv Gaming Discord Server: http://www.vvv-gaming.com/discord/invite  (Discord Guide: http://www.vvv-gaming.com/discord/guide)
    Format: 3vs3 - Double Elimination Tournament. Best of three in the winner's bracket and best of one in the loser's bracket until the last two matches which return to best of three. Teams are pre-made by the players.
    Style: Pre-made Teams
    Registration: Visit http://vvv-gaming.com/rocket-league/register on the day of the tournament to register.
     
    Participating as an individual: After filling out the signup form you will be in a free-agent pool. To ensure your participation in the event, you should be seeking out other free agents to form a team.  Another alternative is to seek a team that only has two players and join their team for the evening. If you do not have a team by the end of check-in period, you may not be able to participate.  If this is the case, contact an admin and seek help with finding a team, please only seek help after attempting to form a team on your own.
     
    Participating as a team: After filling out the signup form above, your team is all set. All you need to do is show up in the discord server during the check-in time.  If you are seeking a third player for the evening, you can view the list of free agent players signed up at http://vvv-gaming.com/rocket-league/register and contact them to be part of your team for the evening. If you are unable to acquire a third team member on you own, then please show up on the Discord server at least 30 minutes prior to the event starting and seek help from a Supersonic Staff Member.
    Reminder:  Solo participants do not earn points towards the season finale tournament.  We strongly suggest putting a team together to sign up with!  Feel free to use our discord chat to find teammates. 
     
    Point System
    You will receive points for your participation in each tournament.  These points will determine the top 8 teams from Showdown  and the top 24 players from the Draft. The first tournament finale will be hosted for the top 24 players based on the individual scores from Supersonic Draft event.  The second tournament finale will be hosted for the top 8 teams based on points earned during Supersonic Showdown nights. Keep in mind that participating in Supersonic Showdown event will earn Team Points, participating alone earns you no points.
     
    Breakdown:
    2 points for participating 2 points for every match won in the Winner's Bracket 1 point for every match won in the Loser's Bracket 2 additional points for placing 4th 4 additional points for placing 3rd 6 additional points for placing 2nd 10 additional points for placing 1st  
    Join vVv Gaming

    Become a Community Member
    If you are looking for an open and supportive community filled with e-sport fanatics that you can game and socialize with, then you should fill out an application and join vVv Gaming Community.  Being part of vVv Gaming Community is about being part of something more than yourself; It is about playing games with friends that are supportive and honest; It is about meeting up in person at LAN events; It is about making a difference in each other's lives and making a difference in e-sports. If this is the type of community you seek, then click here and fill out your application.
     
    Become a Staff Member
    Working for an online gaming community has many rewards.  It is a good place to kick start your career in gaming, whether you are looking to become a business major or a community manager.  You will learn new things and acquire transferable skill sets that you can use to build your resume.  If you would like to get involved and help with running of Supersonic Series or other events, please visit our jobs page for more details: http://www.vvv-gaming.com/jobs
     
    Supersonic Staff
    If you have a question, just reach out to one of our event administrators via Discord or private message via our forum. 
     
    Event Administrators:
    Mohulis, Bliss, Cherp
     
    For more information on vVv Gaming and to stay up to date with events that we host across various games, visit our website at http://vvv-gaming.com,  follow us on twitter @vVv_Gaming, join our Discord server at http://www.vvv-gaming.com/discord/invite or join our Rocket League Steam Group at http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vVvGamingRL
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from Yui in Limited Availability Aug 27th - Sept 3rd   
    Take me with you Yui!!
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    vVv Bagzli got a reaction from Angry Doktor in Member Application - Angry Doktor (Brian Boyle)   
    I agree with Saturn, those are really good!

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