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Thank You for the Memories - A Reflection of my Time with vVv Gaming

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Well, it certainly has been some time since I have written an article around here hasn’t it? I have been thinking sporadically over the last few months about vVv Gaming as to why I just don’t really have the drive to visit the forums or bother to jump onto teamspeak anymore (well I guess it would be discord now… see how long it’s been >.<). It is a bit strange to me as for more than five years I spent hundreds, if not thousands, of hours talking with members and applicants, writing articles, going to events, and generally just having fun all thanks to this community… and now I no longer have the drive to even respond to an email…

 

However, today I feel that I owe it to this community at the very least some words, some form of what originally made me love this community, and hopefully ways for current and future members to reignite that spark that I once cared so deeply for. This community has given me so much over the past seven years that I believe you all deserve one last article from Sean “vVv Blazek” Emes. Let us take a stroll back to humble beginnings...

 

I recall joining up with vVv Gaming all the way back in 2009 when I started playing Aion. I had originally followed a friend into the guild in-game over a random invite. At the time I honestly had no real reason to join one guild over another, and quite honestly when I was told by the person who invited me (Spylock) that I had to make a forum account AND post an application, I was already thinking that this was a bit much just to play a game. Still, I followed through the application process and quite quickly became attached to the community.

 

It was quite a change of pace now that I think back to that time. Before I joined vVv I had always just been kind of transient between guilds in other games. Even when I found a guild in Dark Age of Camelot that I had put quite a bit of effort into working with, eventually becoming a guild officer for, I never really felt attached to the people I played with. Somehow, this guild was just... different.

 

Likely one of the major reasons this guild felt different was due to the heavy push for voice communication. I recall some conversations from discussions on ventrillo back in the day, a few conversations stick out quite well in fact. For instance, one of the first times talking to Jerry, aka Lord Jerith, for the first time… it ended with him yelling at everyone and he abruptly logged off for the night as people would not organize to make a show of presence in PvP. I actually felt so bad, like I had done something wrong, that I wrote him an email apologizing that things did not go well. XD

 

After being accepted and gaining my V’s I wound up with some real life issues that drug me away from gaming and put me in a very odd spot. By the time I had returned, a vast majority of the guild had left and I honestly didn’t find myself wanting to play Aion any further. Generally in the past this is where I would just cut my ties to everything and move onto the next game… But for some reason I didn’t feel like letting go of vVv. While the two friends I had originally joined up with had moved on, I decided to continue to visit the forums and talk with others, many of whom I never spoke with before due to playing completely different games than I.

 

It wasn’t until around March of 2011 that I really felt that this community was far more than just a gathering of gamers, but rather a community that had a passion for gaming. A vast majority of the people who have come and gone from vVv over the years were all great people who wanted a place to enjoy their hobby, and favored real debate and others opinions rather than personal attacks and thoughtless banter. I loved being around these people so much that I wanted to do something more…

 

Unfortunately I have never been good at engaging others or being someone who gets out there and pushes an idea forward. I have always been the type to sit back and listen to the conversation at hand and try to formulate my ideas when I have time to think upon them. By this time I had already written a few guides, including a leveling guide back when I was playing Aion in order to help the community. It was so widely liked, even from outside of vVv, that I was getting demands to finish it during the time that I was unable to return to the game. I realized I should continue writing other game related articles, so I applied to join the vVv staff as a writer.

 

Originally I was only writing a review or opinion article once a month whenever I felt like doing something; however I started to get pushed by both Jerry and Jordan (Doomhammer) to keep a much more consistent schedule with my writing if I wanted to be on staff as a writer. Their persuasion and praise are really the main reasons I moved my writing up to a weekly basis, and thanks to vVv I was able to extend my audience through social media and even the Chicago Now! blogs, in which we were guest writers on almost a weekly basis. At times it was hard to keep up, but in the end I managed to continue for nearly two years of consistency with my articles, and I feel I do owe a lot of that to both Jerry and Jordan.

 

While writing was a big focus of mine, It barely hit the cusp of my time spent with vVv Gaming. I ended up playing many different games with the community, from Rift, to WoW, to Star Wars the Old Republic… hell I even bought an X-Box 360 just so I could support the Gears of War 2 scene. I learned about the competitive side of gaming and saw the rise of e-sports in North America…

 

I recall the first MLG event I went to, spectators didn’t require a pass and the event hall had so much free space it was easy to get around and watch the competition… however there was only 2 benches for the Starcraft 2 tournament and most people would just sit around on the ground near the players. Fast forward a mere two years and events were jam packed with many rows of seats and… well people still sat around on the ground watching the tournaments.

 

Sadly all good things do in fact come to an end. Jerry had obtained a job working for Riot Games and decided to hand off leadership of vVv to Jordan. I was optimistic about the change, and really Jordan did a great job, however my motivation seemed to slowly wain from this point forward. I stopped keeping up on weekly articles and really didn’t have the motivation to get excited to write the next one. Once again in less than a year, Jordan had also moved on and passed the lead of vVv Gaming to Rob (RobZ). If I had to pick a point where I no longer bothered what would happen around the forums, this would be it. Many of the people that I had wonderful times playing games with had either moved onto other jobs or communities, simply left due to time constraints or boredom. There was still some activity around the forums and people to converse with, however I was basically back to playing games with one or two people with an occasional burst of life, generally when Jerry attempted to start back up in an MMO. Unfortunately, while it has been seven years now since I first joined, the last two have felt like an elongated exit that just never happened for me.

 

So that brings us to now. What has happened and what can really be done to fix it? While I am somewhat sad as to the state of vVv Gaming over the last two years, I do not blame anyone in particular. In fact I am willing to share the blame as I did nothing to really try and create a better palace for the community to thrive. I cannot give an opinion on why this place is no longer enjoyable for all that have left, but I would like to share the reasons as to why I no longer feel motivated to get on a VoiP program, share my opinions, or write a lengthy article anymore... (yes, yes, I know I'm being hypocritical right now :) )

 

What made vVv Gaming great to me for five years were the experiences I shared, the friendships I made, and the conversations I had both on the forums and over VoiP programs; and that has all but gone away for me. Sadly there was no one that ever replaced Jerry in my mind as both the authoritative figure who lead with an iron fist but also was someone who was just fun to talk to and play games with. The experiences I shared with other members started to dwindle the more we switched games and the less frequently people would get motivated to play together again. The conversations which used to be varied from real life to hard strategy in PvP, basically got reduced to short 30 minute intervals of playing games together and then everyone would leave.

 

To me, I can only ever see vVv thrive in the future if the members begin to do more than just login and play their individual games. Interaction between the entire community needs to return, people need to get excited and share their passion with others, and really vVv members have to want to do more than just have the vVv tag on their name. Whether it be creating a talk show (like Rapture or Paradise did), write articles, or just get people excited to play games together, for the love of the hobby that we all share...

 

To the current vVv Gaming Staff; I wish you the best of luck, and I hope in some way my reflection on the past motivates you to greatness. Create a Vision, Game with Valor, and Achieve Victory my friends.

 

In my closing paragraph, I want to thank everyone who made this place special to me. In my time with this community, I have met many people; plenty of whom I have had the luxury of speaking with in person at multiple events. While basically everyone I have met over the years were amazing human beings, I have to give a heartfelt thank you to those of you who really made this place special to me… Connor (Addiction), Blake (Guttzu), Jason (Paradise), Jorge (Nynjatic), Dan (Sylph), Kenny (Voison), Lee (Brock), Chuck (Buzz), Nick (Enmity), John (Lithium), Matt (Jolly), Anthony (Kraft), Ryan (Perilous), Rob (RobZ), Jordan (Doomhammer), and of course Jerry (Lord Jerith). Sadly I do not talk to most of these people anymore, but I will never forget any of you for the rest of my days, so thank you all for the memories.

 

-Blazek

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Hey Sean! Really amazing article, and definitely know that any chance to hang out with you over the years was always a hell of a lot of fun (remember your first experience with "deep mirthful laughter?" :D). You were always a blast to hang out with everyone in the hotel rooms at events and stay up drinking, talking, and playing games. I definitely can understand why you've made your decision, and I'll even add to that and say that I always got a real thrill out of watching our players compete in tournaments, both in person and online, and now that we don't really have competitive players/teams to watch, it just doesn't feel the same. Like you, I will always cherish the memories of the members and events we went to. I'll let you know if I'm ever in Vegas again and want to hang out, sound good? ;)

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Logged back in to read this. 
You've always been one of my closest vVv friends since the start man.
It's really amazing what a gaming community can do and how it can bring people together from across the globe.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. I honestly feel the exact same way and I wish this community the best.
I've been donating up until last year I think and I truly believe there is hope for a new generation of vVv members.
All it takes is someone to rise above and rally the member. A voice of reason. 

Let's keep in touch via facebook bud and hopefully we can reunite again sometime soon!

Sincerely,

Anthony Kraft Amenta

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Sean,

 

I saw this article through Facebook and had to log on to read it. Your story was very heartfelt and made me reminisce the good times. I do miss the community (especially what we had from 09-12ish) and wish that I still had to passion I once had. I'll never forget the countless hours we shared both online, and at the events we both traveled to. Unfortunately, I (and I am sure many others) am at a time in my life that is very demanding and leaves little time for gaming. I would love to continue to stay in touch through Facebook and hopefully one day connect again online. I wish you nothing but the best, friend.

 

Best wishes,

 

Connor "Addiction" Moran

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Thank you all who took the time to read, it honestly means a lot that even though i haven't talked to many of you in so long, you still logged back in one more time for me :) 

16 hours ago, vVv Brock said:

Hey Sean! Really amazing article, and definitely know that any chance to hang out with you over the years was always a hell of a lot of fun (remember your first experience with "deep mirthful laughter?" :D). You were always a blast to hang out with everyone in the hotel rooms at events and stay up drinking, talking, and playing games. I definitely can understand why you've made your decision, and I'll even add to that and say that I always got a real thrill out of watching our players compete in tournaments, both in person and online, and now that we don't really have competitive players/teams to watch, it just doesn't feel the same. Like you, I will always cherish the memories of the members and events we went to. I'll let you know if I'm ever in Vegas again and want to hang out, sound good? ;)

Haha, yes a lot of good times were had at events! you can always hit me up if you come out to Vegas, ill come party with you for sure :) 

 

14 hours ago, vVv Jolly said:

Miss you and all of these names so much!!!! What a run we had creating some of my favorite memories not just in gaming but in general. Miss you bro and hopefully I see you again one day!

Indeed, I always tell stories about the MLG DC trip to people as it was one of the best vacations i've ever taken! I miss you sir and if i ever find my way back out to the east coast i will have to come visit you!

 

14 hours ago, vVv Kraft said:

Logged back in to read this. 
You've always been one of my closest vVv friends since the start man.
It's really amazing what a gaming community can do and how it can bring people together from across the globe.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. I honestly feel the exact same way and I wish this community the best.
I've been donating up until last year I think and I truly believe there is hope for a new generation of vVv members.
All it takes is someone to rise above and rally the member. A voice of reason. 

Let's keep in touch via facebook bud and hopefully we can reunite again sometime soon!

Sincerely,

Anthony Kraft Amenta

Your words humble me and you have always been a great person since we first talked. I to wish the best for this community and would love to see it rebound stronger than ever. Although i don't post much on facebook of my personal life, but i check in on it frequently so you can always reach me!

 

13 hours ago, Addiction said:

Sean,

 

I saw this article through Facebook and had to log on to read it. Your story was very heartfelt and made me reminisce the good times. I do miss the community (especially what we had from 09-12ish) and wish that I still had to passion I once had. I'll never forget the countless hours we shared both online, and at the events we both traveled to. Unfortunately, I (and I am sure many others) am at a time in my life that is very demanding and leaves little time for gaming. I would love to continue to stay in touch through Facebook and hopefully one day connect again online. I wish you nothing but the best, friend.

 

Best wishes,

 

Connor "Addiction" Moran

Thank you sir, it was always great fun playing games with you. you can always hit me up on facebook whenever you want :) 

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Hey Sean,

I remember meeting you at a couple MLGs but unfortunately never really got a chance to bond with you. I'm curious if you are still playing games, and if so, what games are you playing right now? Would also love to hear what's important in your life right now. Other than reminiscing about old times, what do you see in the world that you'd like to change and in what way would you change it?

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I also was inspired to log back in for the first time in a year after reading your post.

I already left a comment about it on FB, but I'll reiterate; I'll be around. I miss the place and I'm interested to see where it goes. 

Much love, ♡

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Hi Blazek,

 

 

Thank you for the article.  Many of you don't really know me and I feel quite sad about that as I got here late.  I joined vVv Gaming when it started falling through.  I started being part of the community just as leadership was transitioning from Jordan to Rob.  As I have joined so late, I have never had a chance to actually meet any of you in person, and most of you not even online.  However, I am here to bring a new generation of gamers. Maybe it is time for you to move on, maybe you are just longing too much for something you won't find again, so everything will come short in comparison.  In any case, I want you to understand that this place still stands, maybe not in the shape and form that you all remember it, but it is here.  I am making a full push towards creating a new generation of gamers that will be part of vVv Gaming and I welcome you all to come back to us.  

 

I do apologize if this last part sounded somewhat bitter, it was not my intention, but I do have strong feelings against good bye posts when they don't need to be.  I truly hope that some of you, who are our honorary members, reconsider your absent involvement with us and know that we are here making a push! We would love nothing more than to have the people who are such a big part of history for vVv Gaming return to being active members.

 

In either case, I do wish you all the best with all endeavors you choose to pursue and I sincerely hope you find happiness in them.  Lastly, if any of you are coming to PAX South, we will be meeting up and I hope to finally get to meet some of you.

 

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5 hours ago, vVv OrganicBear said:

Hey Sean,

I remember meeting you at a couple MLGs but unfortunately never really got a chance to bond with you. I'm curious if you are still playing games, and if so, what games are you playing right now? Would also love to hear what's important in your life right now. Other than reminiscing about old times, what do you see in the world that you'd like to change and in what way would you change it?

Yeah it feels quite unfortunate that we did not spend much time together as you seemed to be a great person when i did meet you. I do still play games and likely i always will. Right now i mostly play Black Desert Online. MMO's have been something that have always captivated me over the last 15 years and honestly i have a hard time playing other types of games for a very long period of time consistently. Honestly if i had the power or influence there would be things i would love to change the world, but i would more likely focus on making my life great and enjoyable. Unfortunately, my life was rough at the beginning of this year due to the passing of my stepfather and leaving me in a position where i had to take care of a mess i did not wish to. What is important in my life right now is to get back to a comfortable place and hopefully pursue a job, or create one, that i can enjoy and make a living off of.

 

@bagzli - I did not intend to make this out to be a "Goodbye" post. Honestly vVv Gaming has meant a lot to me over the years and i would hate to ever see it close. I understand the position you picked up the mantle in and i do really hope you and your staff can turn vVv into something even greater than it has been. This post was more of a way to convey my thoughts, explanations on why i feel vVv Gaming has become less than it once was, and hopefully some insight as to why many old members no longer feel motivated to be here.

 

But as i said in my original post, i no longer have the motivation to be here regularly, and i haven't for some time now. Since i didn't even bother to replay to your e-mail last month asking those of us who did not have much activity if we still wished to join in your efforts to rebuild this community (and it seems i was not alone due to the list of people cut) i recently felt that i owed this community at least something rather than just ignore it and walk away. The best way i know how to do that is through writing, so that is what i decided to do.

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12 minutes ago, Blazek said:

Yeah it feels quite unfortunate that we did not spend much time together as you seemed to be a great person when i did meet you. I do still play games and likely i always will. Right now i mostly play Black Desert Online. MMO's have been something that have always captivated me over the last 15 years and honestly i have a hard time playing other types of games for a very long period of time consistently. Honestly if i had the power or influence there would be things i would love to change the world, but i would more likely focus on making my life great and enjoyable. Unfortunately, my life was rough at the beginning of this year due to the passing of my stepfather and leaving me in a position where i had to take care of a mess i did not wish to. What is important in my life right now is to get back to a comfortable place and hopefully pursue a job, or create one, that i can enjoy and make a living off of.

How is BDO? I've heard it's become very "pay to compete" with real-money purchasable content giving you pretty big advantages when it comes to major loot events (world bosses or something?). Any thoughts on that? Do you see yourself playing it for a while?

What are some things you want to change to make your life great and enjoyable? Do any of those relate to gaming?

12 minutes ago, Blazek said:

@bagzli - I did not intend to make this out to be a "Goodbye" post. Honestly vVv Gaming has meant a lot to me over the years and i would hate to ever see it close. I understand the position you picked up the mantle in and i do really hope you and your staff can turn vVv into something even greater than it has been. This post was more of a way to convey my thoughts, explanations on why i feel vVv Gaming has become less than it once was, and hopefully some insight as to why many old members no longer feel motivated to be here.

 

But as i said in my original post, i no longer have the motivation to be here regularly, and i haven't for some time now. Since i didn't even bother to replay to your e-mail last month asking those of us who did not have much activity if we still wished to join in your efforts to rebuild this community (and it seems i was not alone due to the list of people cut) i recently felt that i owed this community at least something rather than just ignore it and walk away. The best way i know how to do that is through writing, so that is what i decided to do.

I understand Bagzli's perspective because it feels like there's just a long parade of old-timers doing nothing, waiting for things to get better, and then making angsty melodramatic posts that lack any real substance or feedback when they decide to leave. I also understand that this isn't what your intentions were when you wrote this post, but it does strike a similar chord. Just looking at the responses on your Facebook post it's clear that others felt you were joining with them in that kind of exit, so it's understandable that Bagzli would pick up on that. 

I also feel like there's too much focus on negativity and "but things used to be this way...". You'll never see the way forward by looking backward. People who get disgruntled and then leave because "things used to be better" are just a distraction. Give me some feedback with substance and we can talk. I get it though. Leading is hard. Extremely hard. To me now, it seems so obvious what people could do to improve the organization, but looking back to where I started I also had no fucking idea how to lead. Fuck, I didn't even know how to be authentic back then, not even with myself, what a critical skill to be missing in a leader. People feel like they don't even know where to start, and for the most part they are too afraid of failure to even try, so of course nothing happens. I get it. I don't blame anyone.

I just want to look forward and build something that makes the world better, something that I really believe in and can put my passion behind. Dwelling on what one facet of a community was like half a decade ago doesn't inspire me, and it's amazing to me that people spend so much time doing it. People went inactive and left in 2012 too. People went inactive and left when we had teams competing at every MLG and even teams who stood a pretty decent chance of winning. Look at the list:

  • #BelievVve anyone?
  • Glon facing off against Stephano and making him sweat?
  • Ruff making it to the top 16 in an INTERNATIONAL SC2 competition?
  • REO and CDJr winning 1st and 2nd every MLG for an entire season?

People will leave. I had to struggle with people to get them active on the forums , active on the shoutbox, and active in-game the entire time I was on staff, so that's nothing new either. Looking at who comes and goes, or who is posting what, it's all wind. What impact we can have on the world tomorrow, how to position ourselves to make that difference, and how to most effectively budget our time and effort to pursue our passion is substance. I'd rather vVv become a group of 3 people actively working toward that type of change than 100 people playing games poorly, jerking themselves off on the forums, and waiting for someone else to do something about their problems.

Gaming is huge. It's a huge opportunity to connect with people and make a difference. Look at Operation Supply Drop. Look at Extra Life and Child's Play. Riot improving the quality of life for esports athletes. Twitch supporting gamers who want to stream games for a living. Even some guild leader running Uncle Woody's Fucking Clan just to create a space for people to laugh and socialize together, all of it contributes to making a better world. We can all make a difference if we want to. I'd encourage each and every person making a post negging on vVv or even dwelling on the past to instead use that time and energy to think of one thing they'd like to change in the world, and come up with a plan to lead that change. I think that would be a much better use of time and energy.

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12 hours ago, vVv OrganicBear said:

I understand Bagzli's perspective because it feels like there's just a long parade of old-timers doing nothing, waiting for things to get better, and then making angsty melodramatic posts that lack any real substance or feedback when they decide to leave. I also understand that this isn't what your intentions were when you wrote this post, but it does strike a similar chord. Just looking at the responses on your Facebook post it's clear that others felt you were joining with them in that kind of exit, so it's understandable that Bagzli would pick up on that. 

I also feel like there's too much focus on negativity and "but things used to be this way...". You'll never see the way forward by looking backward. People who get disgruntled and then leave because "things used to be better" are just a distraction. Give me some feedback with substance and we can talk. I get it though. Leading is hard. Extremely hard. To me now, it seems so obvious what people could do to improve the organization, but looking back to where I started I also had no fucking idea how to lead. Fuck, I didn't even know how to be authentic back then, not even with myself, what a critical skill to be missing in a leader. People feel like they don't even know where to start, and for the most part they are too afraid of failure to even try, so of course nothing happens. I get it. I don't blame anyone.

I just want to look forward and build something that makes the world better, something that I really believe in and can put my passion behind. Dwelling on what one facet of a community was like half a decade ago doesn't inspire me, and it's amazing to me that people spend so much time doing it. People went inactive and left in 2012 too. People went inactive and left when we had teams competing at every MLG and even teams who stood a pretty decent chance of winning. Look at the list:

  • #BelievVve anyone?
  • Glon facing off against Stephano and making him sweat?
  • Ruff making it to the top 16 in an INTERNATIONAL SC2 competition?
  • REO and CDJr winning 1st and 2nd every MLG for an entire season?

People will leave. I had to struggle with people to get them active on the forums , active on the shoutbox, and active in-game the entire time I was on staff, so that's nothing new either. Looking at who comes and goes, or who is posting what, it's all wind. What impact we can have on the world tomorrow, how to position ourselves to make that difference, and how to most effectively budget our time and effort to pursue our passion is substance. I'd rather vVv become a group of 3 people actively working toward that type of change than 100 people playing games poorly, jerking themselves off on the forums, and waiting for someone else to do something about their problems.

Gaming is huge. It's a huge opportunity to connect with people and make a difference. Look at Operation Supply Drop. Look at Extra Life and Child's Play. Riot improving the quality of life for esports athletes. Twitch supporting gamers who want to stream games for a living. Even some guild leader running Uncle Woody's Fucking Clan just to create a space for people to laugh and socialize together, all of it contributes to making a better world. We can all make a difference if we want to. I'd encourage each and every person making a post negging on vVv or even dwelling on the past to instead use that time and energy to think of one thing they'd like to change in the world, and come up with a plan to lead that change. I think that would be a much better use of time and energy.

Having been around these forums for seven years, i have seen a ton of posts where people are no longer content and leave. Back in 2012 it was honestly pretty easy to shrug it off as those people would never return, however vVv had so much going on at the time that there was always a positive growth of viewership and/or members. However, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

So i would like you to humor me for a moment, as i have kept my true intentions of writing this article hidden. Writing is such a fascinating thing to me as individually, the 24 characters of the English language mean absolutely nothing... yet arranged in the correct manor, can create a world of possibilities. The title and first paragraph were written with the sole intent of getting people's attention. If you cannot get people to care by the end of the first paragraph, you have no hope of getting your opinion across. So i picked "Thanks for the Memories" and intentionally wrote the first paragraph to get the attention of everyone i possibly could.

 

To be honest, a lot more people came to read my post than i would have thought, and even some went out of the way to login to the forums and make a response, or at the very least conveyed their thoughts on my facebook. I do not claim to understand everyone, and while my personal opinions have been stated in the article as to why i no longer had a drive to interact with this community, i wanted to get opinions of others in the hopes that the current vVv Gaming staff would have an idea on why old members quit and possibly reflect on why this community is no longer important to them. 

 

I agree with your point that you cannot move forward by always looking back, yet if you never take the time to reflect on why things are not getting better, you may never move forward. I understand that leading is hard; i have been thrown into a leadership position, both in gaming guilds and even here on vVv, and I realized it wasn't something i enjoyed. I'm not going to pretend i can do something i cannot and instead i focus on my strengths.

 

So lets go back to my intentions for actually writing this article. First, i wanted to drag people, both new and old, into reading what i had to say. Second, i wanted to paint the picture on what I personally enjoyed about vVv Gaming and why i no longer have that motivation. Lastly, I wanted to give the current vVv Gaming members and staff my opinions on what i think could be done better, and hopefully drag other previous members into the conversation to share their thoughts as well... all in the attempt to try and drive the conversation on what could be done better. If all of these things failed, well then at the very least i would be content on the fact that I did something rather than just leave. 

 

People will come and go, and i get your philosophy on focusing on the best way to utilize your time for the maximum outcome. In a way, that is exactly what i did. I utilized my skills to in some way create an impact on vVv Gaming. It is what i have always done here, and sadly it takes something like this from me to actually get some interaction on these forums which used to be incredibly lively. You can prefer to have three very motivated people over 100 lazy ones, but if you don't have members nor an audience that cares about those three people, then you become that small group of people that Jerry always talked about. Sitting in your voice comms complaining about how others are wrong and just blindly agreeing with each other. It may make the world satisfying for that small group but does that contribute to a better world?

 

When you originally asked me what i would do to make the world a better place, i took it more as a general opinion and large scale. I see now what you meant and i could give you a much better answer. I want to make the world a better place by getting them to interact within the hobby that I and so many people here love... gaming. I feel the best way that i can achieve this is through my writing. For the two years that i wrote here on a consistent basis i feel i achieved that in some small manor as i grew a viewership and made people care about the things that I cared for. I never felt that I reached a very high level of importance, however i do recall going back to may articles several years ago and counting up my views. Every article achieved several thousand views with some reaching into the tens of thousands. Obviously I did achieve my goal in some small manor. In the future I would like to do the same thing again, however I would love even more if i could make it into a job.

 

Finally, I would like to say I do appreciate that both you and Bagzli still have a lot of passion for this community, and I am very happy that you chose to interact with me rather than just closing or ignoring my thread. I just hope you can also see that I still do care about this place and I have seen and participated in more interaction on these forums due to my post in the last three days than I have in possibly the last year. Until this forum closes down, i will always come and visit and if people want to talk about things I am interested in, i will always join in the conversation. Unfortunately right now, i do not have the motivation to contribute to this community as I once did, which is why I accepted some of the responsibility to how things seem to have gone downhill. While it can be said that if you want to see change you need to put in the effort to make it change, i can also say "But if i can do it else where, why would I choose to do it here?"

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2 hours ago, Blazek said:

However, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

vVv Gaming staff would have an idea on why old members quit and possibly reflect on why this community is no longer important to them. 

yet if you never take the time to reflect on why things are not getting better, you may never move forward.

Lastly, I wanted to give the current vVv Gaming members and staff my opinions on what i think could be done better, and hopefully drag other previous members into the conversation to share their thoughts as well... all in the attempt to try and drive the conversation on what could be done better. 

"But if i can do it else where, why would I choose to do it here?"

Staff is and has always been willing to listen. 

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4 hours ago, Blazek said:

 "But if i can do it else where, why would I choose to do it here?"

Because this is your home. At the very least this is what vVv Gaming feels like to me; and is why I do things that I do here.  

 

I'm not going to try and convince you to spend time here, however I did want to say that our staff does listen and acts on what it can. I also wished to add that I have to agree with Greg that we have been dwelling too much on the past.

 

With that said, you are more than welcome to rejoin us or abandon us, it is your choice and I won't judge you for it.  I will ask though that we let the past stay there and to start focusing on future.

 

Thank you for your article and your opinions, they are well received.

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Understandable, however i was told:

 

18 hours ago, vVv OrganicBear said:

Give me some feedback with substance and we can talk.

 

So that is what i did.

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vVv was built and driven by Jerry and his vision for a gaming organization that did something differently. He was the one who brought people together, defined the organization, and drew something special out of each person. He brought us to vVv in the first place.

 

But while Jerry was the catalyst, vVv was something greater than any one person. That's the special sauce of vVv. Each person making something greater than themselves. People energetically creating experiences for themselves and for each other. The experiences that stick with us so deeply that we still recall them years later. That's the formula that makes vVv special: the community stepping up to do more than just wait around to be entertained.

 

You can see the tangible impact from those who go on to work in the games industry. The experiences here are ones that we carry with us forward. So for those who are just starting to get involved, or are still in the mix, it's up to you to take action, to make this place great. It's up to you to come forth every day with the energy to create awesome experiences towards something greater.

 

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I think Sean's post was pretty awesome. vVv Gaming.  Say it out loud. vVv Gaming. vVv.

For years, it was part of my everyday life, and I miss it.  I want to say the right words to inspire you to action. I have seen a period of a lot of pointing at problems.  That's OK, but not enough people taking ownership to fix the problems.

I think those that have left are saying, "It's not fun anymore." It's loud and clear. Until we have young talent in sufficient numbers who want to  evolve vVv, it can only limp along. I do believVve some people will feel the pull to come back and evolve it.  No sure when or who, but they will.

Everyday I used to ask myself, what will make vVv better? Are we creating awesome experiences for our community? Do they feel they are part of something greater than themselves?

This place launched my career into games. It did the same for Rob, Nick, Jason, Jordan and Josh (there a few more I'm missing). The opportunity awaits those who want to do something extraordinary.

When I saw vVv Perilous' father had passed away on Facebook, I also noticed how many vVv members past and present poured out love and support. vVv will never die. It may not be what it was, but it's always there.  The tools and framework are here for those who want to do something awesome.

I miss you all deeply.

 

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I miss the long hours spent on here talking in the shoutbox or on mumble back in the day. I miss the gow scrims. I miss all the old friends I had met and became close with here. I don't think you and I had any personal encounters with one another, but I do understand how you feel. Maybe one day you can find that same enjoyment again through vVv like you once did. 

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The good old days of reading an article written by Blazek. Those we're the days. Glad I logged in today  to see this post. :)

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First I am going to apologize for stealing this thread reply as a way to post my thoughts and as I usually type and speak quickly without a real connection to my thoughts sometimes so bare with me. Also, most likely I am crying typing this thinking about all the good times and how many of you reached out to me on Facebook when my father passed. I never truly had a tough day in my life until August 21st, 2016. 

But Seriously Thank you all from the bottom of my heart it really brought a warm feeling in a time that I was so cold and lost emotionally. I thought about all the good times I have had.

I have been afk for about 4 years (might not be that long but it truly feels like an eternity). 

Have I missed this place? ABSOLUTELY. But vVv was and always has been about the people I invested in emotionally not just the games.

Would I like to be the one who comes back and helps turn things around ? YES YES YES, but I have never been one to truly commit to anything like that so honestly I am not sure if now is the time I change. But I think it all starts with logging  in a little more and just start by lurking, posting, and chatting. Next comes the gaming and possibly recruiting. Last comes the gaming.

Look to see me around a little bit more as I am surely trying to fill a void of blank space in my heart with something that brings me joy again. 

-Sorry for the weird reply/text 

Miss you Blazek.

 

-Ryan

 

 

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26 minutes ago, vVv Perilous said:

First I am going to apologize for stealing this thread reply as a way to post my thoughts and as I usually type and speak quickly without a real connection to my thoughts sometimes so bare with me. Also, most likely I am crying typing this thinking about all the good times and how many of you reached out to me on Facebook when my father passed. I never truly had a tough day in my life until August 21st, 2016. 

But Seriously Thank you all from the bottom of my heart it really brought a warm feeling in a time that I was so cold and lost emotionally. I thought about all the good times I have had.

I have been afk for about 4 years (might not be that long but it truly feels like an eternity). 

Have I missed this place? ABSOLUTELY. But vVv was and always has been about the people I invested in emotionally not just the games.

Would I like to be the one who comes back and helps turn things around ? YES YES YES, but I have never been one to truly commit to anything like that so honestly I am not sure if now is the time I change. But I think it all starts with logging  in a little more and just start by lurking, posting, and chatting. Next comes the gaming and possibly recruiting. Last comes the gaming.

Look to see me around a little bit more as I am surely trying to fill a void of blank space in my heart with something that brings me joy again. 

-Sorry for the weird reply/text 

Miss you Blazek.

 

-Ryan

 

 

 

Click here to begin your journey, welcome back.

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