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      Changes to the Application Process   08/03/2016

      Hello Everyone!   I'm creating this announcement to inform every vVv applicant that I have introduced a few short-term goals that we all will be working toward accomplishing over the next few weeks. One of these goals directly affects your application process.  If you would like to read the full post in detail, and maybe learn a little about me, follow this link. The TL;DR of why I'm addressing this announcement to you is to inform you that our application process will be undergoing a few dramatic changes that will affect your application. vVv Gaming wants to be as transparent as possible when it comes to what changes our Staff team makes and why. We will be changing the applications themselves as well as how they work. Our community wants and needs a larger say in who is accepted and who isn't. We also want to encourage community interaction as much as possible. With these changes, we are wanting to allow members the ability to give constructive criticism to applicants, provide the opportunity for applicants to interact with members and other applicants that they normally may not, and open a platform for discussion and the sharing of ideas. With the reimplementation of the Endorsement System, vVv Gaming is looking to give the power back to our Members and put the fate of the Applicant (and their application!) in their own hands. Applicants will need to receive 5 endorsements from current vVv Members (Staff endorsements work as well!) to earn their pre-interview. If an Applicant fails to receive a new endorsement every 3 weeks the application will be closed. Full details on how the Endorsement System works can be found through this link. Because we are introducing new application forms and a different way of how the application process works, we will be closing all currently open applications. Once the new application forms are posted, all applicants that had an application open during this time will be able to immediately reopen their applications. This means that those applicants do not need to wait 30 days as the new rule states, this will be a one-time exception due to circumstances under which these applications were closed. If you have any questions, please feel free to send me a private message. I apologize for the inconvenience that this will cause. Thank you for your patience and your enthusiasm for joining vVv Gaming!
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      We have moved to Discord   08/04/2016

      There has been a strong desire among the community to migrate to Discord for quite some time. As of today, our community will be using Discord and as a result, we will no longer be actively using our TeamSpeak Server.  The TeamSpeak server will temporarily stay active to help inform all of our move to Discord. Within the next couple of months, it will be shut down completely.  For a quick invite to our new Discord server, you can click here.  
      For a full detailed guide visit http://www.vVv-Gaming.com/Discord
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      vVv Gaming Presents: ADL Season 10!   08/12/2016

      TL;DR: Season 10 of the vVv Gaming LoL ADL begins Friday, August 19th @9pm EST/6pm PST! Discord Info              Just be on Discord at the check in time and have a level 30 with at least 16 champions to participate! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ vVv Gaming has had a long history in competitive e-sports; and, while the LCS may be a long way off for the organization, we can still participate in semi-competitive LoL activities as a community. The ADL has, and will continue to be, our main way to achieve this. However, let’s be honest, the ADL has had a rough time over the past few seasons. This comes from both participant enjoyment, as well as coordination and structuring of the event as a whole. While I do not plan on completely fixing the system from the start, I do believe that there are some short (and long) term changes that can make the experience better for everyone: ·         We are keeping participation points for this season, as well as the Elo ranking system used for previous seasons. ·         We will have people recruiting more in the game from the community, and attempt to bring more LoL community members to the discord that we feel would be good for the vVv community. ·         We will be implementing new rules for the drafting phase. Some of these rules will be introduced as the season progresses and are covered below. ·         Unfortunately, at this point in time, there is no information regarding a prize. If a viable prize method/opportunity comes about in the future, current season winners will be rewarded retroactively. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rules and Details (Read if new):          Nights will consist of two matches per night. You must be able to attend both games (Don’t be that guy, play it out).          Be on Discord NO LATER than 8:55pm EST/5:55pm PST for Check In. This will be slowly changed to 8:45pm EST as the season progresses. We want the drafting phase this season to be as smooth as possible.  We want to give people time to announce their roles before hand.           Check in will happen in the ADL Check In Discord Channel BEFORE players move to the regular ADL channel, and at 9:00pm EST people will move to channels matching their Dynamic Queue rank. Missing the check-in deadline means that you will not be able to participate that night and will not receive a participation point.          During the Check In, participants will announce their top 3 preferred roles for a staff member to place in a spreadsheet (Discord does not allow for your descriptions to be changed, that I am aware of).          Have a level 30 account, at least 16 champions, and be ready to have some fun!          Additional Questions? Contact vVv Eternal or vVv Yui        The ADL will last for 10 weeks this season, there will then be a three-week break before the next season starts (Currently scheduled for Nov. 11, 2016).        Cheating or Smurfing in the ADL is not permitted. Anyone caught doing either of these this will be suspended from the ADL, no exceptions. Cheating will result in a permanent suspension, smurfing will result in a 5-week suspension.  New Drafting Process: So, in previous seasons of the ADL, the highest ranked players were given the priority in being team captains for any given night. While this was not a bad system, it did leave some players feeling left out over the course of the season. That being said: ·         Highest ranked players will no longer be automatically chosen as the team captain. ·         Team captains will be chosen by the number of participation points that a player has (you earn 1 point for each night you attend, REGARDLESS of whether or not you are picked). ·         No player can be captain more than once every 4 weeks (depending on overall participation). ·         The first weekend will have captains from an arbitrary division and lower. So here is my logic (bear with me). With some outlying cases, most of the team captains would pick from highest available skill in a role down, until all of the top players (and a few peoples friends) were picked. I don’t expect this to change at all; however, this allows for both new and lower skill level players and community members, as well as frequent participants, to always have a shot at playing. They also get the benefit of knowing (eventually) in advance that they will be captains. Additional Information: I would like to try and address the speed of the drafting process. For now, the primary way of doing this will be the check-in time; however, if another feasible method is suggested, any changes will be updated in this section. After the Games: ·         Players will join the winning team's discord channel, and all players will be given feedback if they desire it. ·         Players may also provide criticism and suggestions for the ADL. (We are still seeking to improve the event if the community desires it) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More Darn Rules ·         Teams will still be matched by alphabetical order of Discord channel for the time being. ·         The winner of the first match will play the winner of the second (both matches are played out simultaneously), and the same goes for the losing teams. ·         The higher team alphabetically will be chosen to be on the blue side for the first game, and the lower team will get blue side when the second game is played. Leaving/AFK: If someone leaves a game for any reason and does not reconnect, they will be given a 2-night suspension from the ADL. The player may appeal the suspension with an ADL Staff member if there was a legitimate reason for the disconnect. However, all appeals must happen at least 24 hours before the next ADL event. You also may only appeal a disconnect once per season. Pausing: Players may pause the game for UP TO 10 minutes if a player on their team is having connection issues. PLAYERS MUST INFORM AN ADL STAFF MEMBER IF A GAME IS PAUSED. If the reason cannot be resolved in 10 minutes, the team whose player disconnected will concede the match. If the enemy team agrees, they may also use their 10-minute pause to give the other team more time. Teams only get two pauses per game. Replacement Players: Player replacement will be handled the same as in previous seasons. A player may be replaced by another player of the same rank or lower, provided both teams agree to the replacement. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So that’s it folks.  Thank you for sticking through the whole announcement, we understand it is somewhat lengthy, however the information had to be provided.  You are now ready for the 10th season of the ADL! If you have any questions feel free to contact vVv Eternal     See you on Friday, August 19th at 8:55pm EST/6:00pm PST!     ADL Staff: vVv Eternal   To join the discussion click here!  
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      vVv Gaming Returns: Community Game Nights! (CGNs)   08/15/2016

      Rocket League Community Game Nights (CGN) with vVv Gaming are back starting on Monday, August 22nd!  These CGNs will allow teams and individual Rocketeers to continue to bring their A game and level up their gaming skills in two unique events each week! Whether the goal is to improve teamwork, find suitable opponents, or just acquire valuable feedback on how to improve one’s game-play, these events will help accomplish just that! Mondays will continue to be our draft night and due to your feedback, we will be returning to a format of random captains with the ability to opt out of being a captain. Wednesdays will continue to be a night for pre-made 3v3 teams. Supersonic Series Season 4 is happening and we will be announcing information on that and the start date at a later time.   Monday Night Draft
      When: 9PM  EST (6PM PST)  Check-in starts at 8:30PM EST and closes at 8:45PM EST
      Where: vVv Discord Server  (https://discord.gg/p44AjNf)  Discord Guide: http://www.vvv-gaming.com/discord Format: 3vs3 - Double Elimination Tournament. Best of three in the winner's bracket and best of one in the loser's bracket until the last two matches which return to best of three. Captains are chosen at random and each captain picks their team-mates. Registration: Visit http://vvv-gaming.com/RLRegister on the day of the tournament to register.  While signing up you will be able to volunteer to be a captain.  If there are more volunteer captains than the total number of tea`ms, the captains will be picked at random from the pool of volunteers.  If there are not enough volunteer captains, then the remaining number of captains needed will be chosen at random from the remainder of players.  Captains will take turns picking their teammates in a “snake-style” (A, B, C, C, B, A) draft until all teams have 3 players each. Participating with friends is encouraged, however, there is no guarantee that you will be on the same team. The captain’s name will be entered into the Challonge bracket and will be used to represent their team.  Voice channels will be created for each of the teams on our Discord server.
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      When: 9:00 PM  EST (6:00 PM PST)  Check-in starts at 8:30 PM EST and closes at 8:45 PM EST
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        Participating as an individual: After filling out the signup form you will be in a free-agent pool available to fill up spot a team might need or you will be placed on a team with others who have signed up individually. Check-ins will be 15-30 minutes before the start time so we can get everyone organized. A team may contact you to play with them before the event starts.  We also encourage you to talk with any other free agents signed up to form a team!
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    • vVv Bagzli

      August Chopping List   08/20/2016

      As I have stated when I became the president, I will be removing all inactive members from vVv Gaming.  I have given everyone 3 weeks to reach out to me and get in touch with me.  Some have reached out and decided not to vVv members anymore, due to time constraints and other reason.s  Some reached out and promised they would take certain action to show they want to be members but it did not happen, and lastly, some have never reached out to me at all.  I really wish that things could be different, but as it stands the following people are being removed from vVv Gaming.  We wish them the best of luck with their future endeavours and hope to see them come back to us one day.   The following is a list of donor members who will be returned to Donor rank on the forum, but will no longer be vVv Members. vVv Brocco vVv Koala vVv Krewel vVv Rising Dawn   The following is a list of vVv Members being returned to normal forum rank. vVv Acai28 vVv AmpeD vVv Arkaine vVv Blazek vVv Buzz vVv Cherp vVv Cr0nus vVv Deadaim vVv Falcodile vVv Matchu vVv Oriklad vVv ShySluShy vVv SilverSpoon vVv Spike vVv TyTy vVv UkogMonkey vVv Zeeb
Rinzler

vVv Rinzler Guild Wars 2 Beta Weekend #2 Thief PvP

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The loudness of the music varies greatly between tracks.

Im sure thats what you wanted to hear for the first comment. ^^ :P

Thiefs are fun to watch, gotta say that.

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The loudness of the music varies greatly between tracks.

Im sure thats what you wanted to hear for the first comment. ^^ :P

Thiefs are fun to watch, gotta say that.

Sounded fine when editing, thats odd.

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told ya dual pistols are beast, good vid

Yeah on bwe 1 I had a build that could basically spam unload non stop cause I had so much initiation regen but idk if it works with the new trait tiers I didn't get a chance to rock the thief this weekend.

But man spamming unload drops people down really fast, just no stealth kinda sucks, but yeah they are much better for the big brawls like the one in your vid, much better to sit back on the outskirts and waste people then pop in the middle of a bunch of people trying to duke it out in melee

Idk how the hell this guy did it but one time I died to a thief that did 17k damage over 3 heart strikes

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The audio volume is fine on my end...

Nice video, Rinzler. I feel like Guardians take forever to kill, I'm not sure how you felt as a Thief but on my Ranger I found it wearisome to get him down after my initial burst.

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told ya dual pistols are beast, good vid

Yeah on bwe 1 I had a build that could basically spam unload non stop cause I had so much initiation regen but idk if it works with the new trait tiers I didn't get a chance to rock the thief this weekend.

But man spamming unload drops people down really fast, just no stealth kinda sucks, but yeah they are much better for the big brawls like the one in your vid, much better to sit back on the outskirts and waste people then pop in the middle of a bunch of people trying to duke it out in melee

Idk how the hell this guy did it but one time I died to a thief that did 17k damage over 3 heart strikes

It's way more viable than it was in BWE1 if your damage is all coming from Trickery to be honest. 2% increased damage for each point of initiative I retain, and I receive 4 initiative back from any healing skill as well as the 2 per 10 seconds and increased initiative regen in stealth. The Deadly Arts tree is useless with the hybrid nature of this build and in tomorrow's article I'll explain why.

The audio volume is fine on my end...

Nice video, Rinzler. I feel like Guardians take forever to kill, I'm not sure how you felt as a Thief but on my Ranger I found it wearisome to get him down after my initial burst.

It really is a delicate dance. At one point in the first fight i lost all forward momentum and had to start clawing my advantage back with Hide in Shadows, which ended up saving me

because he didn't see the dual pistols coming. You're right, it's a slow fight of incremental advantages and it's incredibly hard to finish Guardians off before backup arrives. And much appreciated ^.^

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I am sorry, but I really can't stand watching your videos. It is really annoying when people click abilities. Even though in this particular video you decided to remove the mouse cursor, I still know you are clicking it because the tool tips come up when you hover your mouse over them. Do you honestly expect people to not recognize it.

I know we as a guild are trying to get our name out in the GW2 community as a highly competitive sPvP team, but posting videos of you clicking abilities is just bad pvp.

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I am sorry, but I really can't stand watching your videos. It is really annoying when people click abilities. Even though in this particular video you decided to remove the mouse cursor, I still know you are clicking it because the tool tips come up when you hover your mouse over them. Do you honestly expect people to not recognize it.

I know we as a guild are trying to get our name out in the GW2 community as a highly competitive sPvP team, but posting videos of you clicking abilities is just bad pvp.

I click the last 5 because its more efficient for me to do so than move my hand. I've been doing it for years, and I'm in no way trying to hide the fact that i click some skills. The reason i removed the cursor is because its miserably distracting. What is bad PvP to you? And what kind of mouse would you like to send me so you no longer have to watch this? :)

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All honest opinion, it is not efficient to click an ability over pressing a key. You should never have to look down at you bar just to click skills, you lose precious time in doing so. Knowing where your keybinds are will greatly improve your pvp gameplay. Looking back at your video, you can see you click multiple times for an ability to trigger for it to finally go off. On another note, it is not really wise to blow all your utility skills just to kill one person, try not to use all of your abilities, i.e cooldowns just to kill a 1 v 1 target. You should be able to judge what is needed: opening weapon set, abilities, cooldowns, when to swap weapons, etc. to take out a target, or even to disengage entirely.In other words, you cant wait for cooldowns to engage a target.

As far as keys go, I use esf for movement keys, s and f are strafe, I do not have a key bound to move backwards. IMO, you should never move backwards in a competitive pvp match and always turn with your mouse.I use q, w a d, r, t, g and the number 1-5 for abilities. I also have a naga epic mouse, which I am considering buying another mouse just to try another mouse. I dont really need all the keys it has for this game.

There are multiple ways to set up a keyboard to have more keys available. You can use asd for movement keys and use qwer for abilities, you can also use CAPSLOCK as well as z, x, c, and v.

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I'm a big fan of your skill setup hotkey wise as I used the exact same in Bloodline Champions, and will definitely try it for GW2. I would agree with you deeply on the moving backwards as nothing inherently productive comes from it, but with the addition of doubletap to roll it feels like a mistake to not keep it in your back pocket, no pun intended.

In all honesty, what you're describing is your preference to sliding your hand across the keyboard to hit a key, when my preference is clicking a skill because i find my click speed and accuracy to be satisfactory. Because YOU lose precious time doing so, doesn't mean I do. I'm sure you hit a button multiple times when youre in an intense battle as well. On the subject of using all your cooldowns for a kill being "not really being wise", that's completely situational and is a sock puppet argument in itself.

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I have disable the double tap to roll and have a keybind to dodge. I highly recommend it.

As far as "sliding my hand across the keyboard to hit a key" all of my keys are right next to what I call my home keys, all I do is move a finger. The key point in doing this is I don't have to look at my skill bar to position my mouse.

To me, GW2 is a reactionary game, not an APM game, I don't spam keys, it is more precise timing than anything else.

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I am sorry, but I really can't stand watching your videos. It is really annoying when people click abilities.

lol I dint thought that any1 does that.

You can try my setup:

12345 for Weaponkeys

QE for heal and 1 utility, 2 thumbkeys on my mouse for the other 2 utilitys, and mousewheel click for elite.

If you dont have thumbkeys on your mouse, use sth like shift, or R.

You dont need Q and E to strafe anyways, just rightclick.

I just took that from my GW1 setup.

I dont need to really move my hand (aside from switching attunments with ele on F keys.)

Couldnt imagine clicking skills..... the funny thing about it is that you actually need to aim, and you lose focus on the battle.

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I agree with having every single thing on a keybind, being able to move in the direction that you need to and using the proper ability at the same time is key, however....

I really do no think that it is that detrimental to click for your last 5 in this game, they are all on fairly long cooldowns and the extra time to move the mouse is not going to make or break you, I have seen some of the best players in the world in mmo's use really shitty ui's, click ability's and do a lot of things like that, but they still come out on top.

For some people it is just really hard to adapt to something different, in my swtor guild there was a player that mouse clicked almost everything and he was really good he was one of the best player in one of the top guilds on the server in pve and pvp, if your fast and accurate enough with the mouse it really isn't that bad.

Don't get too mad at talon he still uses the old ball mouse give him a break.

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I agree with having every single thing on a keybind, being able to move in the direction that you need to and using the proper ability at the same time is key, however....

I really do no think that it is that detrimental to click for your last 5 in this game, they are all on fairly long cooldowns and the extra time to move the mouse is not going to make or break you, I have seen some of the best players in the world in mmo's use really shitty ui's, click ability's and do a lot of things like that, but they still come out on top.

For some people it is just really hard to adapt to something different, in my swtor guild there was a player that mouse clicked almost everything and he was really good he was one of the best player in one of the top guilds on the server in pve and pvp, if your fast and accurate enough with the mouse it really isn't that bad.

Don't get too mad at talon he still uses the old ball mouse give him a break.

You're right. I'm not clicking any of my first 5 and it's not inhibiting my movement nor is it consequential. I will try the QERT - 12345 on skills though. I really love that setup.

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I also have a naga epic mouse, which I am considering buying another mouse just to try another mouse. I dont really need all the keys it has for this game.

I have the Naga molten but I picked up the Naga Hex for GW2 and I'm really into it. It's pretty perfect for my needs for this game.

My bind set-up for GW2:

I kind of have small hands so I use 1-4 and E for weapon ablities, Q and shift-Q for pet attack/call back respectively, S for pet 'special,' dodge is mouse wheel click, heal is shift mouse wheel click, and weapon swap/utilities/ultimate are bound to naga hex buttons.

I use WAD for movement A/D being strafe,

For some people it is just really hard to adapt to something different, in my swtor guild there was a player that mouse clicked almost everything and he was really good he was one of the best player in one of the top guilds on the server in pve and pvp, if your fast and accurate enough with the mouse it really isn't that bad.

I don't think keybinding makes you neccessarily "better" or clicking a couple things necessarily makes you bad, there are plenty of players who don't click abilities and are terrible. But I agree, it's about your comfort level, some people are just better doing it their way. I've always used binds, that's what I'm comfortable with as a player. I think that if I consciously tried to adapt to mouse-clicking only, just as most people expect others to adapt to keybinds, I would be absolutely horrible. I would rather play with someone who was awesome and might click a few abilities than play with a baddie with keybinds.

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I'm using the razr naga 1-5 are default, class ability 1 is on the top button, 1-5 on the mouse is my heal, utility's and elite, 6 is ptt for vent and mumble, 7 is dodge, 8 is swap weapons, class ability's 234 are on zxc

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I've always been a Binder/Macro kinda fellow. Tho, I have some ablities I click that I rarely use like in wow (hearthing stone, Professions) When I had 2 abilities I used back to back everytime, I'd Macro them in a cast sequence and bind it to the a single key to lightin the load of my binds and not having to finger to far from home base( my code name for w,s,a,d).First thing I do is set A the Strafe left, D to strafe right cause its a bugs the hell outta me to watch my toon just turn like it has a pole up its butt.

I have a Naga I use the scroll wheel up and down for my Dodge backwards. I do both just incase I go up a little before going back (common sense to cover if I make a mistake) Scroll wheel down to heal. The two buttons by the Left mouse regular click are to smaller buttons i play to use for switching Weapons and the other pet. Only other buttons i use on the naga are 1,2,4,5,8 because for me those are the ones easly feel recognizable without lookin or spending time fubling around trying to figure out where my thumb is on the small buttons. On my keyboard I use everything in the field of 1 2 3 and I bind no farther than T,G,B if i need more I just use Shift + key. Im not one to use Tab,Alt and hiting the same key as shift. I believe if your doing that then your not macroing your attacks together enough.

As far as clicker vs binders its not me so I really dont care how another plays if they ask for my help then I stress going bind if they aren't already.

I'll be the first one to tell ya im a southern boy and I may talk a little slower but thats so I dont have to take the time to repeat myself. I've always gamed with saying "Im no genius but you dont have to be a genius to play with common sense."

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EEEEH. I myself left my healing skill as is and was using the QER for utility skills but I would still click my elite (seeing as how I pve'd most of the weekend and never even had an elite skill, I didnt bother to bind it ;x.)

ZXCV for elementalist attunements too, not that I needed to change a whole lot but it was really helpful ;x.

I didnt use a dodge key and just kept the double tap since I didnt feel like getting used to another different way. xD.

I felt like it worked a lot better since I'm not at all comfortable with stretching my index finger past 6 D:.

To each his own though, do what feels good to you LOL.

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I think thats quite a playstyle,its quick with melee and ranged whichever you need better to prefer to you, It works out well, I think the switch of the music is nice its a bit loud at first

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Nice video.

Thieves are always an enjoyable thing to watch. I don't enjoy playing one as much though.

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Nice video.

Thieves are always an enjoyable thing to watch. I don't enjoy playing one as much though.

Much appreciated.

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Another nice video Rinzler, and as many people have said it all really depends on the person personally i love keybinding everything.

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Another nice video Rinzler, and as many people have said it all really depends on the person personally i love keybinding everything.

Word. Will definitely try the QERT 12345.

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