Wow, if the leagues partner with jaxel (donate) then we really (donate) are screwed (become a premium member!) and it'll all pretty much a giant joke (Disable adblocker) to the community at large (donate).
I wonder how long until Jaxel decides "MLG is too elitist!" and opens up Astral League while copying all their info without asking permission or giving credit.
(for those who don't know Jaxel's streams and websites are fucking plastered with ads, begs for donations, and requests that people become premium members. He also Started a website called Astral Heat because 'Dustloop.com is too elitist and unwelcoming of new players' and then copied all the info from their guides and posted it on his site without credit or permission.)
If Jaxel is coming out of the woodwork you know that he's smelt the money and wants a piece
This doesn't really make anyone look bad besides yourself.
Stop acting like a spoiled teenager. Dustloop is a shitty community. And the information was put out there for anyone to use as they please. Unless the folks who put the guides up at DL want to copyright their info and claim it, there's no problem. He's disseminating the information to a larger audience. But he already addressed the issue of 'copying guides' as you claim.
The difference here is that we'll still be around during and after something like this happens. Did everyone forget about Starcraft in Korea? That started up because the grassroots leagues made it hype, and then the community was approached by sponsors and built their own thing that worked. The FGC can use that model as opposed to the model offered by MLG or major 'leagues'.
They get it... according to how they expect things to run. We expect something different.
Tossing aside all these ideas of "differences" and different demographics, I still don't understand why both communities can't come together and work something out that is good for both sides. Let's be honest: what the FGC really, REALLY values is the Open Tournament feeling. We understand that you want to cap tournaments because too many entrants can get crazy, but EVO solved that problem by forcing pre-registration and pre-creating bracket assignments and pools. Logistically they've solved a huge number of problems and they learn and develop clever new ways to overcome the difficulties inherently involved with hosting a huge open tournament. A lot of people feel that going the MLG route of limited tournaments and "leagues" would prevent that open feel.
And, well, how else do you find more excellent players? We want to be able to walk into any tournament and see how we measure up. We want to see the effects of our practice and see our improvement. How would MLG let us do that?
since you clearly didn't bother to actually read the rest of what I wrote, I won't bother responding to any great length.
And what the fuck is 'according to how they expect things to run.' Honestly? I feel like you are just making shit up now.
Like I said, they don't need your permission. The fact that this discussion exists and that the FGC keeps digging itself into it's little hole is enough for me personally to say, "ok hell with that, then." This is where you make a case for why you should get corporate sponsors, and actually step up from the grassroots level. Not do the complete opposite. Holy grilled cheesus, fam.
And it's quite clear that you have no idea how MLG runs it's tournament brackets, since you keep talking about closed vs open bracket.
Edited by vVv Empire, 19 December 2011 - 12:35 PM.