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So for people that have watched Ryanoobs stream in the past this isnt that big of a surprise, but I believe this is the first time he did it in a scrim. Its just as the title says. He uses suicides to help gain his team the spawn behind the opposing team. It can be random, but it works. I have seen it done on matching twice, but it didn't work to well. Heres Snipedowns POV when he used it I know this isnt the best view. But Ryanoob is releasing a video on how to do judge when to do it/where to do it/ect. I'll post that video along with this as soon as he uploads it. Would anyone of you be willing to use this in a competitive match? I think if you got it to work right it would be great, but the chance for error might not be worth it as well.
Past two years I've been doing a lot of psychoanalysis research in addition to other work and being an avid gamer from a very young age I've always been interested in the psychology of competitive gaming and more specifically in things like camping other players in WoW (being the gamer who sits in crossroads and kills everyone walking by for kicks) - following enemy players and killing them - why do we do it? I know I was known as one of those folks who would intentionally run around the enemy territory and egg on horde players, /duel-ing them and making them attack me, then camp their body. How this pertains to league of legends... This reddit post caught my eye - I'm into academia and writeups when they have connections with video games and this is a pretty cool little piece about griefing/trolling, etc in League of Legends. Griefing in League of Legends: An Psychological Analysis (self.leagueoflegends) (From Reddit) by legoEngineer 30 Nov 2011 After participating in numerous tribunals for the past few months during my lunch break I have come to some conclusions about why players grief. It is my hope that some will use my theories in order to prevent or mitigate their teammates griefing. You may also notice some of these tendencies in yourself, commence the introspection! Control Griefing comes down to one thing, control. The griefer feels they have lost control of the situation and they try desperately to regain it. This is something that happens in every single tribunal case I have seen. The player first loses all hope of winning the game. Either because they are feeding or because they are on a horrible losing streak, or a teammate is feeding, maybe there are too many OP champs on opposing team ext... Secondly, if they cannot control the game in their team's favor they will control the game by purposefully losing. They will start "Trolling", by buying silly items and purposefully dying. They may also go afk, thereby crippling their team. They become the ones in control, because they are choosing to lose. The most compelling evidence I have seen for this is when a griefer says something like, "You didn't gank my lane, so now I will feed, have fun losing noobs." Especially apparent is when the player starts griefing after they initiate a failed surrender vote. Depressingly, griefer's going AFK is quite similarity to suicides. This is on a much smaller scale of course, but most suicides happen because the person feels they have lost control of their life, and the only way they can regain control is by ending it. (I'm not saying they are on par or anything, suicide is a very serious issue) The griefer may also try to gain control by verbal harassment. Just like a playground bully they will attempt to undermine the self esteem of the other players so they will think they have also lost control and give up. What to do when Teamates Grief Assuming that my above analysis is correct, you must convince the griefer that they can still positively affect the game's outcome. Say things like: We can still win, we are only down 5 kills LeBlank may be feed but she will suck late game The enemy won't be able to kill you if you buy a frozen mallet! It is important to be polite no matter how many times they call you a fag. They are hurt and scared and they just need someone to give them hope. They still want to win they have just given up hope of doing so. Like a playground bully all they really want is a friend. EDIT: Davebo suggested calling the greifer on their bullshit. LINK Do not become a second griefer It is easy to become a griefer once someone is already rusing out to commit suicide. Obviously you are going to lose if someone is purposely feeding, so why don't you just sell all your items for 6 ninja tabi, right? WRONG, there is still a chance you can convince the griefer that there is a chance to win and make a comeback, please don't add to the problem. Prevent Griefing It is important to address concerns when they first arise. Has someone died twice in the first four minutes? Give them some FRIENDLY advice, ASK them to hug the tower, or maybe abandon it altogether so they don't feed. (Though which is worse is debatable) Also, some players may lose hope at champ select, try to assure them that everything will be alright and point out your teams strengths. The important thing is that they do not lose hope, they need to feel that their team is behind them. TD:LR Greifers first feel like they lose the ability to positively control the games outcome. Then, in desperation the Negatively affects the games outcome. Be friendly and try to give them hope. Sorry if that was long winded, I tried to make myself as clear as possible. I will respond to any questions. Does anyone else have a hypothesis? EDIT: formatting, spelling EDIT 2:DEFINITION OF GRIEFING A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game that deliberately irritates and harasses other players. EDIT 3: Tons of responses from people justifying greifing or suggesting ignore is the only option. If you don't want to work with other people why are you playing a multiplayer game? Your success in this game depends on the success of your teammates, therefore in order to win the most you must help your teamates. (Note that I'm not a great player by any means, but few people can win 1v5) _______________________________________________________________________________________________________ I think though - there is a huge difference in things like camping enemy players in WoW and trolling in League of Legends... In case anyone thinks I was drawing that parallel... Definitely a lot of validity in the writeup from how I see it - thoughts?